Yes there are programs like that in certain schools around the country.  The
one my son took had just a 5 pound bag of sugar or flour.  My son did not
like the girl and the way she 'decorated' the baby so did not participate
much and was a waste of time for him--altho once he 'was' out on his own he
did stay fatherless for quite a while!   So who knows whether it really
worked or not.
take care,

Dana and Ilsa
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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bush plays the game of being Christian


>
> In a message dated 11/10/2004 00:18:13 GMT Standard Time,
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> writes:
>
> Aahh,  leaving it all up to the female! ?  Being the devils' advocate
here.
> NOT  having sex is the best form of birth control as us 'oldies  but
goodies'
> know.  We also know all about precautions.  But tell  that to two 15 year
> olds.  Obviously what is out there is not  working.  Parents do not take
the
> time to keep track of their kids,  there is no discipline, no routine for
> young kids--such as a bedtime, meals  cooked "at home", no positive extra
> activities after school.  Parents  do not care.
> My son has a child out of wedlock now after shacking up for  2-3 years
with a
> much younger girl.
> "Her" parents let an 18 year old  girl move out of the house, for the
"first"
> time, in with a guy 6 years  older than she was.  Three years later as
they
> were planning on going  their own ways, she comes up pregnant.  I have met
> her.  She has  ambition, is taking college courses mostly on line now, but
> does go to a  claqss on campus.  When she was here a couple of years
ago--my
> son  lives 2c states away--she came right out and said she wanted kids and
a
> house, picket fence etc.  My son has been a cook in a Country  Kitchen for
4
> years and not making enough money to take care of himself  much less a
child!
> They have since moved closer to the colleges and he has  a better job, but
is
> still a cook at a bar/grill and has no idea what to do  as a career.  They
> are taking advantage of the "single mother" thing  for school funds and
baby
> food and medical care for the baby.  Her  parents have bought most of all
the
> toys and baby bed/play pen and all the  newer things available for babies
> these days.  I don't know what my  son's father has done, don't want to
know.
> I cannot afford hardly  anything.  They did bring him down here for me to
> see, I paid for gas,  they stayed at my mother's.  He is a doll!  But that
> does not  undo the deed.  It has given my son a kick in the behind as to
what
> it  takes to support a family, but as long as she recieves money and the
baby
> gets medical care, he is not too concerned.  Somehow they have  worked out
a
> schedule where they do not need daycare.
>
> Well so much  for venting and a little bit of opinion.
> take care,
>
> Dana and  Ilsa
>
>
> Very true about trying to tell a couple of 15year olds about
protection!!!
> Over here in the UK, in my area there's a new scheme running  about trying
to
> tell the 13-16yr olds the safetys of having sex.  The kids  are given
virtual
> babies to look after on weekends, and the babies do everything  that a
real
> baby would do apart from move.  There is a mini computer inside  the
babies to
> tell the experts how well they've done.  It moniters things  like how many
> times the head was able to fall backwards, how long it took for  the
parent to
> stop the baby crying, weather it was fed/nappy changed etc.   They are a
> fantastic idea, and the amount of kids that's decided that they now  don't
want kids
> at all!  It's just a shame that they aren't taught  pratically about STI's
and
> the consequences of them.  They are probably  more dangerous that falling
> pregnant!  It would probably help if they were  taught the financial side
of
> having a baby as well.  Are there any schemes  like that running in the
states?
>
> Love Smurf xxx
>


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