River and Jim
You're both kinda' right, but seeing it with partisan
slant it seems. The content of Kerry's response was completely within an
inclusive, democratic, vote-getting (maybe a bit of pandering) agenda. But that
has to be better than Bush's "us VS those queers
who chose a god-hated, ostracized, unworthy of being acknowledged,
hedonistic, diseased deserved" life style. By concentrating on lesbians it was
both an attempted slight by Kerry toward Bush because , after all, Kerry is
ready to deal, but knew it was still a bit "untidy" for the Bush camp and he was
testing the waters of the voting pool to gauge the acceptable level of
mud-throwing the voting public will accept. This unneeded addition of Kerry
adding "....who is a lesbian", rightfully may have elicited a groan- rest
assured Kerry's future comments on this subject will be much more polished. The
question answered by my vote is no pro- Kerry vote, but rather a more
hopeful for the future, first step on a new path
vote
CW
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lubin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:24 PM
To: River Wolfe
Cc: quad
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The "L" word is not a dirty word
From: Jim Lubin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:24 PM
To: River Wolfe
Cc: quad
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The "L" word is not a dirty word
What BS. He could have just as easily used New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey or Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank who are openly gay public officials if he wanted to personalize his answer. Mary Cheney is the vice-president's daughter and also a private citizen. Reporters at the debate reported that the audience (of college students) "moaned" when Kerry gave his response.
At 04:25 AM 10/15/2004, River Wolfe wrote:
Here is the statement released by GLAAD the prime media organization representing GLBT people in the media. The Human Rights Campaign's statement is similar in tone."Bush's answer to Bob Schieffer's question about sexual orientation and Kerry's invocation of Mary Cheney -- whether you agree or disagree with that decision as a political matter -- crystallized a key difference between the candidates. One continues to talk about us in the abstract. The other went out of his way to present us as real people -- to acknowledge our lives, our families, and our humanity. It's clear from their answers last night that these two candidates have very different visions of our place in the life of our nation.
"I would imagine that Kerry is as surprised as I am by the firestorm over his reference to Mary Cheney. Gay people are part of our nation, our families, our circles of friends. For anyone to suggest that mentioning us is somehow wrong or off-limits says more about their discomfort with gays and lesbians than it does about Kerry's decision last night to include and acknowledge us."
peace and justice,
River </blockquote></x-html>
Jim Lubin
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