Re: [QUAD-L] Re: human embryos

[Corie Jones]

In my opinion, human life begins when the embryo becomes a human fetus, which is when the fetus begins to have a brain, spinal cord, heart, and other functioning organs.  These embryonic cells are just that...cells...until they are implanted into a woman's body.  There is no LIFE without a WOMAN's body to allow the cells to grow into a human fetus, which can eventually live outside of his/her mother's womb.  So many pro lifer's do not consider this important fact.  I get very angry with the argument against partial birth abortion, which only happens because the woman's life is in jeopardy.  Doctor's do not perform abortions when the fetus is over 8 weeks UNLESS the mother's life is at risk.  Doctor's are very conservative about this.  It is not something done lightly.  It amazes me that there is always this huge concern for an embryo (before it is a fetus, before it has a brain, spinal cord, heart) when the woman/mother NECESSARY for the growth and life of this developing fetus is disregarded so callously.  I hope I'm not sorry for responding to this! Peace, Corie :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lubin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: human embryos At 02:50 PM 11/1/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 29/10/04 22:21:48 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm just saying that frozen embryos from an IVF clinic should be treated with respect.  If I "owned" frozen embryos, I would rather see some good come from them than knowing they were just destroyed.  IMHO I totally agree with you (I've been a bit blonde lately! hehe)  Embryos are to precious to let go to waste! Then shouldn't they be donated to other couple to use for IVF? They get destroyed in the therapeutic cloning process, that is the whole reason for the controversy of using them. If you think human embryos are precious and should be treated with respect then why is everyone so eager to destroy them in experiments to create stem cells?  I just don't understand the reasoning that "they will be destroyed anyway" so they might as well be experimented on for the "greater good". To me that sounds like the reasoning the Nazis used when conducting medical experiments on the Jews they were going to kill anyway. I'm just curious, those of you who do favor embryonic stem cell research right now, when do YOU feel a human life begins? The frozen embryos has the same 46 chromosomes as a human fetus. When a nervous system is detected? When a heart has developed? Some women say they can tell the instant they become pregnant, which would be before the embryo reaches the blastocyst stage, 5 to 7 days into development. Have you even thought about it? Jim