wow, the GOLD ones, huh?
dave
I get my catheters through mail order.
Again you can ask for samples that are free. I use A-med in Huntington
Beach California. There's also a big company in Georgia. The
catheters are quite expensive. Mine are covered by Medicare. At
the cost of $1000 a month.
In a message dated 1/11/2005 3:27:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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inches! I do not pee until the 10 inch mark! I highly recommend
the catheters that, in a bag. With practice you'll be able to
independently catheterize on your own and just toss the bag into the
garbage.
I get my catheters through mail order. Again you can ask
for samples that are free. I use A-med in Huntington Beach
California. There's also a big company in Georgia. The
catheters are quite expensive. Mine are covered by Medicare. At
the cost of $1000 a month.
If you have Medicaid I believe that they are
covered as well. Probably easily. You'll need to have the
doctors prescription.
I must say that this is the best thing that I
have ever done. I was suffering from autonomic dysreflexia to the
point of almost having a stroke.
I still take bladder medications to
stop spasms, as they also stop the sweating caused by the
spasms.
Everyone is different. Practice, practice,
practice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "quad" <[email protected]> Sent:
Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Help....
> Grin! Need to get rid of those 6 inchers!
They are useless. The curved > tip is a coude' tip. Get rid
of the red ones too--unless you want to keep > them 'in case', which I
did a lot of! he! he! > Not sure what you mean by going 'uphill' unless
you mean 'up' into the > catheter. That is particularly true
if you are laying flat on your back and > need to cathed, it does
take a few seconds longer to get it up and out--make > sure the end
of the cath is "below" the stoma! Some nurses don't get that >
'gravity' thing! Plus when taking the cath out-keep the cather
"down". > Otherwise what is in the catheter will drain back into the
bladder. > > I cannot cath myself when laying flat, or laying on
either side. To do it > in bed I must raise my knees and the
head. Raising the knees first will > keep you from sliding down in
the bed quite so much. When laying back down, > lower the head
first, then knees. You will still slide, but not near as > much.
Gads, the looks and why's I get from nurses when I ask them to do >
that! They would just as soon pull me up in bed several times a
day. Thats > not the point, "I" get uncomfortable squished down in
the crease where the > head comes up. I like my head touching the
headboard whether I am on total > flat bedrest or not! Well,
more venting. gotta go! Glad to be of help! > > Dana
and ? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- >
From: "~LittleQuad~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dana Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "quad" <[email protected]> > Sent:
Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Help.... > > > > girl right now i have so many catheters
its crazy! i have all the ones > > from b4 surgery, 6 inches long,
and the ones doc office sent to let me > > decide what kind i
like...they are all 14 french tho.. > > i have 2 kinds long clear
ones, one has a curved tip, i think its best so > > far...other
long clear one has straight tip..the red ones are nice and > > soft
but too pliable... > > will it take a while for it to get used
to going kinda uphill? it takes > > some coaxing to get the last bit
up out of the cath....yuk, can you > > believe we are talking about
this?? lol > > anyway thanks so much, you've been my saving
grace......have great day! > > amye > > > > Dana
Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you can tell when you
need to pee, thats great! I can too, so I just > > cath when
needed--depends on how much water I guzzle at one time. Timing > >
it > > may or may not help now. What ever works for 'you' is the
answer! > > > > I do have a stoma, the nurses etc. will call
it an Indiana nipple. I asked > > one time why a 'nipple' and they
could not really answer that. Mine is > > about 2-3 inches to the
right of my belly button. My scar runs from > > my --well--groin
area, up and around my belly button and stops about 4 > > inches
above my belly button. I hardly know its there (only because it has >
> been there so long) but it comes in handy when someone is
dressing > > me--they > > line the middle seam of the
slacks/jeans up with the scar! My SP was on > > the > >
other side very low down sort of where my leg and belly meet. I have
no > > idea if there is a scar. > > > > As for
scars, get used to them! Over the years they will come. My back and >
> right back thigh looks like a road map. But that is because of
flap > > surgeries. I used to be very picky about how my hands,
elbows and places > > that people see every day, looked. I would see
guys with very nobby elbows > > that were calloused over and the
middle knuckle much taller and calloused > > than the rest of
their hand. I have been lucky and have aides that put > > lotion on
every day. My fingers have stayed straight, but my right hand > >
fingers are curling 'up' a bit. Not so that it looks wierd or even
close > > to > > it, but it is harder for me to 'make' them
curl. > > > > Your not vain, its normal for people,
especially women, to want their skin > > to look nice! Once the SP
is out, the place it was will close quickly. > > Once the incision is
healed to minimize the look of it, keep it lotioned > > or >
> moist with something. I have been seeing a advertizement about a
cream > > that > > is supposed to keep scaring to a
minimum. > > > > I get my catheters from my pharmacy now. I
pay for them, but they last a > > long time. I buy a box of 30 and
they deliver them with my meds. They are: > > Brand:
Mentor > > description: Self-cath coude' olive tip with > >
guide stripe (useless! the stripe) > > size: 16 french > >
reference number: 816 > > > > They are clear/white color
with an orange end. The first ones I used were > > closer in color
to the red caths, but were a bit browner, shorter and a > >
bit > > stiffer than the red ones. Go to the pharmasist and see what
kinds they > > have or can get. The clearer colored ones are better
as you can tell if > > the > > end is harboring gook or
growing things! :) Can also watch the mucous come > > out! In the
beging it is usual for so much mucous be produced that it will > >
clog the SP or even the cath. Run water thru the cath and try again if >
> this > > happens. If your SP clogs, irrigate. Do this on top of
your daily > > irrigations. Sometimes nurses may not want to irrigate
an extra time--get > > the doc to write irrigate daily "and" prn!!
Be sure to tell them the way > > 'you' want it done! Usually what
they are vtaught is different, such as > > 'not pulling out' they
will let it drain out. That does not get the mucous > > out. Once
they have done it a couple of times and see the amount of mucous >
> come out, they will give in. If you get a hard head,. call the
agency and > > ask for a different nurse! They will provide the
irrigation kits too! Tip: > > whatever they do not use--KEEP! It
will come in handy sometime! I have a > > bottom drawer of a dresser
I use just for such things. Urine sample > > bottles, iodine swabs,
tweezers, lubricant packs, pads of any shape or > > form, >
> tape--can 'never' have enough tape. Extra drainage bed bags,
legs bags-for > > a while-60 cc syringes, just anything! >
> > > This is getting long. Ask if you have any questions! >
> take care, > > > > Dana and ? > >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:
"~LittleQuad~" > > > > To: "Dana Miller" ; "Quad-list
post" > > > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:03 AM >
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Help.... > > > > > >>
wow i did it for the 1st tie at home! i have been dreading this >
>> enormously! it just looks so awful, as i hate any scratch! thanks
so much > >> for the note, i must had read it 10Xs! i will try
and be on a strict 3 > >> hour regiment, unless needed before...as
i can still tell when i need to > >> go...the nurse at hospital
said i'd most likely lose it, thank goodness i > >>
haven't!! > >> so you have a stoma also? where is yours? mine is
like 2 inches to right > >> of belly button, and the SP is 2
inches below...temporarily! i don't > >> think > >>
i'll have mine a year...i go back in 2 weeks and he mentioned removing >
>> it...hope so, it hurts my feelings to see how it rubs my skin
and > >> stretches it, my eyes water every time i see it...i must
be a vain > >> person....haha > >> thanks a lot
dana!! > >> > >> > >> Dana Miller
wrote: > >> It will be fine! It will produce a lot of mucous at
first because part of > >> your intestine was used and that
produced mucous! It "will" bleed, the > >> edge > >>
of the hole is tender right now. I kept a SP in for nearly a "year" >
>> before > >> 'trusting' that weird thing in my belly. Make
sure you irrigate it!! At > >> least daily. Do not be gentle about
it! Put 60cc's of sterile water inn > >> the syringe and shove it
in! Then pull 30cc's out! When you pull out, do > >> not pull
if you get resistance--the end of the catheter may be against > >>
the > >> wall of your new bladder. Irrigate again. I irrigated at
least twice or > >> until it pulled back clear. It is amazing how
much mucous can build up in > >> 24 hours. >
>> > >> Between cathing, cover it with 2 x2's or a 4x4. It
will keep the > >> irritation > >> of clothes down.
When you do cath, make sure you get far enough in--the > >> first
few weeks of cathing, if my doc did it, I would be flabbergasted as >
>> far in she would put it. The type of cath I use, only about 5-6
inches > >> sticks out in order to get it all the way in. I really
should measure > >> that. > >> I will let you know
what kind of cath I use as those red rubber hospital > >> kind
might as well be a piece of spaghetti! Plus they drain slowly. >
>> > >> Do you still have a SP in? Using that at night gives
the hole a chance to > >> rest and the sides to heal a bit. If
the cath will not go in easy, if > >> there > >> is
resistance, take a deep breath and let it out--relax! And keep your >
>> water drinking up! It will help expand the new bladder--altho if
you are > >> cathing only every 4 hours, I would cut back on
the water, or just sip it > >> now and then. If you drink a
whole glass it will hit in about an hour and > >> you will need
to cath every 20-30 minutes, if that much, as your bladder > >>
will not be able to hold that much liquid at a time. If your
are leaking, > >> up the caths to 3 hrs. >
>> > >> It will take quite a while to get used to it and to
the new feelings you > >> will get. They re-arranged your
insides! They will be sore. A picture > >> will help. Sometimes,
no matter what you do, the durn thing will 'not' go > >> in.
Relax for a bit and have someone else try. The angle of the
cath will > >> help. When it goes in the hole have it pointed
down a bit towards the new > >> bladder. >
>> > >> The main thing is to be patient! It "will"
work--stay on ditropan or > >> whatever you use for bladder
relaxation. What kind of cath are you using? > >> The red
rubbers are the softest, but because of that it does not have > >>
enough > >> stiffness to get thru the tight times, but will
eventually if you > >> lubricate. > >> I forgot about
lubricating--its been so long since I have used it, I > >>
forget > >> about it. > >> > >> Basically
its one of those things that the more you 'fight', the worse it >
>> is. Then suddenly it will go in, and you have no idea what you did!
I > >> will > >> be signing off for the day, but be
optimistic, it will work and see ya > >> tomorrow! take
care, > >> > >> Dana and ? > >>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ----- Original Message ----- >
>> From: "~LittleQuad~" > >> > >> To: "Quad-list
post" > >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:52 PM > >>
Subject: [QUAD-L] Help.... > >> > >> >
>>> Hey gang! I've had my surgery and my doctor says it was a
success. I'm > >>> not > >>> so convinced! The
hole gets clogged up and fluid build-up. It's very > >>>
sore > >>> and bleeds when messed with. I can hardly stand to
look at it, much less > >>> cath thru it! My mom tried and
she couldn't figure it out. So I'm going > >>> to >
>>> try it in a little while. Doc says do it every 4 hours. Ugh,
help! Is it > >>> supposed to do that??? I'm going to get a
pic taken of it and send, > >>> hopefully this week. >
>>> Thanks guys!! > >>> Amye >
>>> > >> > >> > >> >
> > > >
> > > >
The
moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash
interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William
James 1906
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