Your response was misleading and wrong. You have descended into using emotionalism instead of logic. We have Federal funding which is "Limited" as any federal funding MUST MEET a higher ethical standard than; private funding (Like from the Reeve's foundation) which "IS NOT LIMITED" I guess you'd have to take it up with groups like PETA, who started the ethics in Federaly funded research money crusade along with the "religious right" but for different reasons at different times. Stunt
> > > > So, we don't study embryonic stem cells because its been determined prior to > study that they aren't promising? That sounds like what Laura Bush said. Now > that we can comfortably > claim to be in last place in stem cell research among industrialized > nations, I sure feel good that Bush has guided the US away from learning unethical > things. Next thing you know, we will ground the airlines because, what is > holding them up? > > john > > In a message dated 6/2/2005 6:48:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > That set of stem cells referred to as being contaminated > are "EMBRYONIC". Why the MEDIA keeps dropping that IMPORTANT > distinction is political in nature. It creates an illusion that ALL > stem cell sources are. Olfactory stem cells, cord blood stem cells, > bone marrow stem cells, etc are being reaserched using federal funds > AND ARE NOT CONTAMINATED. In fact, they have more promise of not being > rejected. > It is understandable why a researcher who thinks they are being > overlooked, underfunded etc make a bunch of noise trying to be the > squeakiest wheel. > It doesn't mean their reaserch holds the most promise. > Stunt > > > > > > > And this is what they're funding! > > This is why they don't even try to research it's pointless and it's > a "Ban" > > or would people want their federal funds wasted on research that we > can't > > use? > > So I agree they can talk about allowing federal funds then throw them > > useless material to work with so you're right it's lip service and > everyone > > knows it. > > > > Mark > > > > A study published in the online journal Nature Medicine says the stem- > cell > > lines are contaminated with a non-human molecule that may make them > risky > > for use in medical therapies. Three years ago, Bush said federal > funds could > > be used for research only on a limited number of stem-cell lines > already in > > existence. That allowed research to continue and enabled the > president to > > assure social conservatives that no new embryos would be destroyed in > the > > process. > > If few or none of the stem cells in the federally approved batch > remain > > uncontaminated, Bush is wasting precious time. To people suffering > from > > Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other ailments, the president's > > policy is a failure because it impedes progress. > > The cells were contaminated because of the manner in which they are > > processed. Researchers grow the cells in petri dishes lined with > cells from > > mice and bathed in serum derived from calves and other animals. > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: 06/01/05 20:50:35 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] stem cell research > > > > Now you got it! The feds are funding it, but under such restrictive > rules > > they haven't the resources to perform and duplicate experiments > > independently. The existing stem cells have been proven to be > contaminated. > > The rules still say that's all they can use. It is lip service. The > Bush > > administration has wrapped itself in stupidity and they are damn > proud of it > > Remember, morons have rights too! > > > > In a message dated 6/1/2005 8:28:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Yea, > > But along with Federal funding comes a lot of extra rules and > > regulations. > > Private funded researchers tend to not waste money like their Fedraly > > funded counterparts, and can make the most rapid advances. > > Once private research has found a proven technology, then the Federal > > dollars will flow. > > Most medical advances actualy start this way. > > IMHO the media is over playing this issue to further the "Progressive > > Ideologies" which includes abortion and euthenasia. > > While Embryonic stem cells "MIGHT" be the answer, there is no proof > > that it is more promising than stem cells harvested from the person > > needing treatment. > > Until that proof unfolds, I'd rather see our gov err on the side of > > caution in regards to ethics. > > Stunt > > > > > > > > Hi Stuntman, > > > > > > I understand the difference between PRIVATE and FEDERAL funding for > > research. It's kind of like owning a PRIVATE Corvette and not > putting > > FEDERAL gasoline in it. It will look great in my driveway but won't > > get me on the road. > > > > > > I hope you had a good Memorial Day! > > > > > > > > > With Love, > > > > > > CtrlAltDel aka Dave > > > C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post > > > Texas, USA > > > Stuntman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Howdy Dave, > > > PRIVATE research can still make use of those, it's just not allowed > > > under FEDERAL funding. > > > I wish the same would be applied to abortions. > > > BTW all that money collected by the Reeve's foundation is PRIVATE > so > > it > > > can make use of those types of stem cell sources. > > > Stunt > > > > -- > > Freedom: United States Constitution� 1791 All Rights > > Preserved > > > > My first Domain > > http://nw-in.com/index.html > > http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-enter.html > > Pics > > http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-list/quad-list1.htm > > Home page. > > http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/homeincyberspace/ > > > > Computer Graphics portfolio. > > http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Freedom: United States Constitution� 1791 All Rights > Preserved > > My first Domain > http://nw-in.com/index.html > http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-enter.html > Pics > http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-list/quad-list1.htm > Home page. > http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/homeincyberspace/ > > Computer Graphics portfolio. > http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/index.htm > > > > > > > -- Freedom: United States Constitution� 1791 All Rights Preserved My first Domain http://nw-in.com/index.html http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-enter.html Pics http://quads.nw-in.com/quad-list/quad-list1.htm Home page. http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/homeincyberspace/ Computer Graphics portfolio. http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/index.htm
