Saddam was wrong but bombing a bunch of innocent people just because of an arrogant, stubborn man seems a little extreme especially when our reason for going to war was mostly hype and fabricated to justify it.
Let's face it after 9/11 we went into Afghanistan and all but destroyed Al Qaida and it was the right thing to do and patriotism was sky high and the Bush administration used this same patriotism to get us to back him in Iraq and we were sold a war on fear that he was going to use WMD's on us or our allies and look at what it's cost us.
Just for the record.
April 2005,
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It is unlikely Iraq shipped banned weapons material into Syria before the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, according to report released by the Iraq Survey Group, a CIA/Pentagon team searching for Iraqi weapons programs.
In October, the group said that the 1991 Persian Gulf War likely destroyed Iraq's capabilities of producing weapons of mass destruction and that Iraq had none when the United States invaded.
After the October report, Vice President Dick Cheney and other U.S. officials said they believed Iraq possessed such material before the war and had moved it across the border into Syria, where the weapons may have been transferred to terrorists.
Addenda to the group's final report -- released Monday on the U.S. Government Printing Office's Web site -- threw doubt on that scenario.
"ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place," the report said.
The group also said it had been unable to complete its investigation because of security concerns and couldn't rule out an "unofficial" transfer of material.
The report said that 12 years of international sanctions against Baghdad after the Gulf War had left Iraq's scientific community decimated and these experts' skills in a state of "natural decay."
The group added it was unlikely that scientists were capable of re-creating the destroyed weapons programs, meaning Iraq would have possessed little, if anything, to transfer.
"It is worth noting that even if ISG had been able to fully examine all the leads it possessed, it is unlikely that conclusive information would have been found," the report said.
Instead, the report said, detainees interviewed by the group "uniformly denied any knowledge of residual WMD that could have been secreted to Syria."
Charles Duefler, head of the Iraq Survey Group, recommended that many of the detained scientists could be released because they had been cooperative, were no longer a security risk and had no more information to share.
-------Original Message-------
Date: 06/05/05 16:14:06
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bible prophecy
But again, it was not a war that was needed right at that moment.
Afghanistan should have been a priority.
The connection with Iraq and al-queeda was not big and it's bigger now.
Sure parts of Iraq are better off, but there are any number of countries
that would be better off if we invaded.
Sure Clinton thought they had WMD, the world did, even Bush Sr. did when he
was in office. But they did not think it was an imminent threat.
The reasons given now for this war would justivy going into many countries,
but we don't.
Greg
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bible prophecy
> Good Question.
> Why didn't klinton go after him?
> That UN Resolution 1441 had NOTHING to do with 9/11
> WMD's were only ONE of the 60 some odd reasons listed.
> The MEDIA keeps misleading the public by repeating those lies.
> BTW Klinton thought they had WMD's.
> As did the UN and most of the free world.
> It was Sadamneds fault for not destroying them (if he did instead of
> hiding them in Syria) in front of UN Inspectors as per that 91 Cease
> Fire HE SIGNED AND AGREED TO!
> How many people died because of the world's failure to enforce the
> Treaty of Versailles?
> France, Germany, and Russia are all guilty of involvement with the Oil
> for Food scandle.
> After 9/11 there were involvements with al-queeda, or did you miss that
> too? Oday and usay loved those guys.
> Look, it isn't a perfect world.
> But Iraq is now much better off, Libya gave up harboring terrorists and
> surrendered their WMD programs (staffed with Sadamns scientists),
> Lebanon now desires a Democratic freedom, and the Terrorists are
> concentrating their hatred for America in Iraq.
> Would you rather we fight them here?
> Can't you see the opportunity for peace is growing?
> Stunt
> > I'm no liberal on a lot of issues, but this war was a someting Rove
> and Bush
> > wanted for a long time. Sure Sadeam broke the UN Resolutions and was
> an evil
> > man, but if we use that as the basis for war, we would be fighting a
> lot of
> > wars.
> > And remember, those were not the reasons they gave for going to war.
> It was
> > that Saddam had WMD and could get US with them. And that he was
> involved
> > with terrorists. The UN Resolutions were far down on that list if
> even used
> > at first.
> > I would gave maybe supported them going after Iran, at least they
> supported
> > terrorist and looks to have been linked to the guys in 911.
> > If the UN Resolutions were the big issue, then why not go after him
> before
> > 911.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > > The contiuation of the war in Iraq was due to non-compliance to the
> > > cease-fire agreement signed by Sadamned in 91. UN Resolution 1441
> was
> > > adopted UNANIMOUSLY by the UN Security counsel. It was specific in
> its
> > > terms. It called for proof that Sadamned had completed the terms set
> > > forth in 91. France thought it could block action (even though they
> too
> > > signed the resolution) by just not coming back to the table. France
> > > insured Sadamned that the US wouldn't attack to enforce the
> resolution
> > > w/o France's consensus. This emboldened Sadamned into non-compliance
> > > and he then refused several "last chances" through accepting exile
> > > instead of plunging his country back into war.
> > > Too bad that he chose to believe France instead of keeping his side
> of
> > > the bargan.
> > > BTW he was having a splended time torturing and killing all during
> that
> > > time period. It is estimated he killed over a million. It was common
> > > practice to kill a mans wife after sexualy torturing her if someone
> > > THOUGHT the man was less than 100% subservant. And then they'd
> charge
> > > him for the bullet when dumping her body on his door step.
> > > Had klinton tried to enforce the 91 treaty, maybe a lot more people
> > > would be alive today.
> > > Quit drinking the kool-aid served by the left winged media.
> > > These facts are all available by anyone willing to look.
> > >
> > > Stunt
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think this war war fought "because" of G.W.'s belief in the
> Bible.
> > > The hard Right vwanted this long before 911, they had hopes of this
> > > thing happening since he was elected.
> > > > G.
> > > >
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> > > -------------------------.
> > > > I still believe we should have stayed out of the Middle
> east.
> > > Do not any of you read your Bibles? It says there that there always
> > > will be wars and rumours of wars. Why can't we just stay at home and
> > > take care of our own problems?
> > > > Carol in KY
> > > >
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