C-7 is a large and distinct vertebrae. It has nerves extending through it in 4 places instead of two. This causes a mythical level we like to call C-8. Persons injured at this level are often more like paras, except they have the quad gut.
 
john
 
n a message dated 8/27/2005 8:45:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I’m not one of those quads that have actually took time out 2 study the spinal cord or sci’s. But I thought C7 was the last of the c’s. But as you stated no matter what level you are u want to be a level or 2 lower. As in life you just want 2 be level or 2 better up the ladder of life.
Houston

On 8/26/05 9:44 PM, "tahouston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know that when the doctors told me that I was C5-C6 complete, all I wanted to be was a sea C8 with enough dexterity to use my hands, you as a screwdriver or just write without an aide.  At the rehab, everyone I conversed with wanted to be just one or two levels more than what they were.

Tom Houston

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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:52  PM
 
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Houston,
 
 
 
I've had a taste of both levels.  I was a quad when I got out  of my coma.  I just thought that I would love it if I could use my  arms.  I'm T 7/8 but my torso is so long that I am paralyzed  right below my chest. I think quads want to be paras and paras want to  walk.  AB's want a better life, etc..  It goes on and on.   Everyone wants something better than what they have.
 
 
 
Stacy
 

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Hi Houston,
 
 
 
I agree with you about Dave.  I think we all are super just by  showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we  can to live a good life.  Each day adds up, and as the years go by we  learn a little more about ourselves.  I hope yours is a lucky 7.   :)
 
 
 
With Love,
 

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post
Texas,  USA  
 

Houston809 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
 
Dave,
You sound 2 be a  super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve  met a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk I  like some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a  little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.
Houston  

On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

 
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a  few walking quads - we called them super-quads.  they walked with  short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional  out in the real world but still, they were impressive.  I'm a  incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into  the back seat of my 2 door cars.  my legs are now not trustworthy  enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van  with a ramp.  i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to  have an a/b around in case i fall.  getting up is outside my  abilities.  i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from  triggered leg spasms to get there.  i use back and leg muscles to  get onto the raised jon.  i really would like to offer more help to  you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common.   i do suffer from many of the ills and dep!  ressions   described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in  many public situations.   heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon  stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they  are you.  i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help  from anyone around  women seem particularly drawn to my helpless  situations.  not my first idea for meeting chicks tho.  the  winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the  end.
Dave

Stacy Harim  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
Wow,  that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and  cannot in anyway do that.  I have to have my board and I'm  paraplegic.  My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression  b/c I am way strong enough.  My tone doesn't work with me like  yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very  impressed by you.
 
Stacy
 
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In a message dated  8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723  writes:

hey  paul
 
    can you do a weight  shift in your chair or turn yourself at night?  if not that  would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very  weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without  sliding board) for couple of years.  i transfer to the shower  chair, stander, and bed.  i use the tone in my legs to help  me move.  when i start to lean forward my spasms  automatically kick in to help me lean back.  when you first  start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're  in manual chair it will slide away from you.  i use my tone  to give me a push to lift and move over.  i have never ended  up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD).   when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i  ask for help, though.  
 
i'd rather ask for help  getting in bed than getting off the  floor
 



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