Dan V
At 04:55 PM 6/19/06 -0500, Tim Thompson said something that elicited my response:
My my,
What a rant and load of hogwash.
BTW, I "VOLUNTEERED" during Vietnam in the REGULAR Armed Services BEFORE komrade kerry lied about our troops STILL SERVING in Vietnam.
I see you've bought into the "Progressive Liberal" Media biased reporting.
"Beginning in the 1960s, liberalism, once the home of many deep thinkers, began to substitute feeling for thought and descended into superficiality. One-word put-downs of opponents' ideas and motives were substituted for thoughtful rebuttal. Though liberals regard themselves as intellectualtheir views, after all, are those of nearly all university professorsliberal thought has almost died. Instead of feeling the need to thoughtfully consider an idea, most liberal minds today work on automatic. One-word reactions to most issues are the liberal norm... Here is a list of terms liberals apply to virtually every idea or action with which they differ: Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Islamophobic, Imperialist, Bigoted, Intolerant. And here is the list of one-word descriptions of what liberals are for: Peace, Fairness, Tolerance, The poor, The disenfranchised, The environment. These two lists serve contemporary liberals in at least three ways. First, they attack the motives of non-liberals and thereby morally dismiss the non-liberal person. Second, these words make it easy to be a liberalessentially all one needs to do is to memorize this brief list and apply the right term to any idea or policy... Third, they make the liberal feel good about himselfby opposing conservative ideas and policies, he is automatically opposing racism, bigotry, imperialism, etc. Examples could fill a book." Dennis Prager
So I hope you "feel better" now that you've called me, just an American who was PROUD to serve my country, a "Fascist".
Maybe if "YOU" educated yourself a little, you'd know that the FRENCH prevented a possible peacable solution by telling Sadamned he had nothing to worry about instead of warning him to take us up on that "EXILE" offer.
I'm more than capable of "proving" my stand.
Seems ad homenium attack is your forte'.
Stunt
On 6/19/06, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- Stranger still is love of ones' Religion, Country and Autonomy.....
- I never realized you were such a Fascist! My Country - right or wrong eh. And if we're wrong, all the better - bring em on! Fascism is what put the likes of Hitler and Mussolini in power and kept them there. The people of these countries never questioned their Governments. Kill Six million Jews? No problem my leaders are ALWAYS right.
- And NO country wants to be occupied. Look what happened to the British 'Liberation' i.e. Occupation/Empire. And did you know that only 1 percent (that's one percent) of ALL Iraqis want us in their country! We rank far lower than the insurgents!
- How would you react if Russia decided that Bushy posed a threat to the world so they instigated a preemptive strike (Shock and Awe) killing hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians and destroying our infrastructure while doing so? Then they invaded our Country and occupied all of our best and fanciest buildings, so they could 'fix up OUR country'? What do you think we would do? Um, maybe become insurgents? And perhaps the Canadians and Mexicans would join us in becoming resistant fighters as they most likely would be next in the eradication of Axis of Evils.
- And you can't compare how one country fights another. If you remember our war with England, the British marched into battle in compact formations while the American liberators hid behind trees and rock walls and picked off the British at will. All the while the British were saying - what the Hell is wrong with these Americans? Don't they know how to fight a proper war? My God, they are nothing but heathens.
- And what did we do in Vietnam? We couldn't beat them with gun fire on the ground so we tried saturation high altitude bombing, That didn't work since the people we were fighting were living underground which we knew! Then we tried defoliating their forest that didn't work again because they were hiding underground. 'What the Hell is wrong with these Americans? Don't they know how to fight a proper war? My God, they are nothing but heathens.' So then we started dropping Napalm - White Phosphorous - Whisky Pete. How many innocent men, women, and children were killed by Napalm? This stuff sticks to your skin and burns till it's spent. There is no way to put it out. It's a horrible way to die. And in the end, we got our ass kicked. Today a unified Vietnam is one of our best trading partners. 50 thousand plus dead GIs and millions of dead Vietnamese. Was all that inhumanity worth it? Oh, I forgot. It was Jane Fonda and John Kerrys' fault.
- Well, I could go on forever but I am proud to say I'm one of the 70 percent who believe this preemptive and baseless war was a grave mistake that has turned the world against us and I'm afraid we will pay dearly for it in the years to come.
- I will not post again on this topic. Good night my Fascist friend. Oh, by the way, I've met several quads and amps that were injured in Iraq and they hate the war and everything about it.
- They don't sound like bad guys to me. But it does make this an SCI topic.
- Dan V
- At 01:38 PM 6/17/06 -0500, Tim Thompson said something that elicited my response:
- >Strange thing Freedom....
- >Once one gets a taste, it's more addictive to one's soul than drugs..... to those who didn't grow up in it through the selfless sacrifices of their ancestors.... Peolpe forget how many years we stayed in Germany and Japan, and we're STILL in S. Korea.
- >But we now here BS about "quagmire", calling sophmoric degradidations torture, claiming we're worse than the beheaders and real torturers and comparisons to Vietnam, while all the positive news is ignored, like "women voting and holding office in an Arab country (that's 2 now).
- >We gave into liberal propaganda (speaking of the majority of public support) during Vietnam, {1] when the "Useful Idiots" like hanoi jane and komrade kerry decieved America, we created "no fire zones etc, which eliminated any chance of victory and signed a cease fire agreement.
- >When the North Vietnamese violated the Cease fire Agreement, the Democratic leadership faulted on our promise and over a million civilians were slaughtered in Vietnam and Cambodia as the "Peacful Communists" (according to the "Useful Idiots") took them over.
- >A new generation, unaware of the truth that the "Useful Idiots" caused, are now bombarded by the same style propaganda, and bin hidden is counting on them just like Ho Chi Mein did.
- >[1] This was not the only problem, as then, like now, "politicians" thought they were better qualified to run the war.
- >
- >The TERRORISTS (I refuse to call foriegn suicide bombers "insurgents") are fighting to PREVENT stability and hope to start civil war, BUT THE IRAQI's ARE NOW TELLING US WHO THEY ARE and where they're hiding.
- >The only hope we have of a long term solution is proving the Terrorists wrong by exposing the people to the truth.
- >Presently the "Hate Bush " first crowd is muddying that water of hope by aiding with propaganda that America is Bad and blowing things out of proportion instead of waiting for the truth to come out.
- >I met a new para a couple of weeks ago at the Hines VA SCI unit, who was sorry he couldn't go back to fight in Iraq.
- >Doesn't sound like a bad guy to me. But it does make this an SCI topic.
- >Stunt

