Re: [QUAD-L] speaking of fakes

[DeLiMiTeD4]

Some folks just want or crave attention. I can't pretend that I think wanting to be a quad isn't really bent.I've heard psych students do stunts like that to get a better insight on traumatic injury cases but thats a truely twisted crowd there. I was thinking that normal folks wanting to be in with us would be more along the munchhausen type disorder than transgender. I use to think you couldn't be this handicrapped and still be a racist. I've learned that racist sneek in everywhere   I couldn't imagine anyone wanting to loose their health to this degree. It isn't the same a mis-assigned gender. I think that is played out beyond reality already. Why is it wrong for us to tell someone that their desire to be the other gender is wrong. After the transgender operations, are these people happy for the rest of their lives? From what I've rread, the numbers don't justify the alterations in most cases. (I don't remember where I read it.) Most of us go through our lives never quite getting the attention that we feel we deserve from the people we most want it from. I'm not saying we have to learn to live an unhappy life. I am saying that at a certain point we must take responsibility for our own happiness.   If you are on this list under false pretenses, I would recommend you seek help. If you are here trying to understand a loved one, just say so. I'm always floored when I meet quads that are chasing away the few people that love them then remember it as "they left me."   john 30yrs post C-5     In a message dated 7/2/2006 10:58:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey everyone, I've been aware of the phenomenon of "wheelchair pretenders" for quite some time and haven't seen much discussion about it here on the quad list.  At times, I wonder if everyone here is for real, but have usually let it go.   What do others think and feel about these people who "need" to be in a  chair or pretend to be amputees.  This site http://www.transabled.org/mos/Frontpage/:states that it is a psychological need much like a person who is born female but their mind their emotions and everything else are programmed to be female - transgendered.  I definitely feel there are some folks that fit the transgendered category, you can't help but admit some boys were meant to be girls and vice versa.  BUT I definitelly don't believe some folks are born able-bodied and they are really supposed to be disabled, to me that's a "mental illness" that can be dealt with by lots of therapy.  In my opinion, these are people who are seeking attention and sympathy, and or they get some sort of sexual satisfaction from pretending to be disabled.  They make me wanna scream "go jump off a cliff or dive in the shallow end of a pool and stop pretending, see how you like it then"  I simply don't get it. There's even a story of a woman who wanted to have her legs amputated for the hell of it, just to live life as an amputee.  Hell, I say lets just send her to Iraq. Lets discuss this interesting topic. Peace, River =