If Walmart closed, all the workers in all countries affected would be
looking for jobs elsewhere. Here, burger flippers and restaurant waiters
would see new competition for their jobs. All newly unemployed would
certainly be looking for any source of income they could find. Our
welfare, food stamp, and other social programs would certainly feel the
pinch. I'm sure those of us already on government programs would
feel the pinch sooner or later. I love to visit mom & pop places too
and there are still plenty around here (Phoenix) to satisfy anyone's
thirst.
Dave
In a message dated 7/15/2006 5:36:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Once again, if Americans were loyal to
American-made products and shop at the Marshall Field/Sears
Roebuck/Carson/etc./stores there would be no market for Wal-Mart.
However we cannot have our cake and eat it too. We can't keep factories
making good quality products here in America and selling them for top dollar
in order to support the wages and benefits, cash our paychecks and then
complain about the price of the products we made.
I worked 20 years for Sears and they were
accused also a low-wage hiring practices but they offered a very good
profit-sharing plan. I watched janitors retire with hundreds of
thousands of dollars in stock options. Wal-Mart is very similar.
They offer their employees a chance to invest into company profit-sharing but
have little in the way of overall benefits. I have been at both ends of
the scale and now that I collect disability I understand what it is like to be
poor. A good education doesn't guarantee that you will win the
economical race but it will assure you a spot at the starting gate.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:23
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart
At 03:44 PM 7/15/2006 -0500, tahouston said something that
elicited my response:
If Wal-Mart
moves into your community, the community can vote it out by continuing to
shop at the mom-and-pop stores. If you took the average wage of the
so-called illegal immigrants sweeping the floors at night, they still
would not be paying taxes. Sometimes Americans forget that poor
people do not pay taxes. Most people in the lower tax brackets get
between 90 to 100% refund.
I'm one of those working
poor and it's true we get back most all of the federal income tax BUT we
don't get back the Medicare tax!
There
can be a Wal-Mart in the neighborhood and you can still continue to shop
where ever you would like.
Trouble is, Wally Mart
drives out all the other shops. I used to shop at one of our local Wally
Marts until they got so big it was more of a chore to shop there (huge lines
at check out, takes 20 minutes to get from one end of the store to the next
- and they keep moving things around so you are forced to hunt for what you
need. Of course they do this so you will impulse buy while your searching
for what you really need) than to go to several other stores to get what you
need.
Most Americans
live hurried lives. They enjoy the cheap prices and a one-stop
shop. As I was driving by the Ford Motor Company assembly plant in
Illinois, I notice most of the employee cars in the parking lot were
foreign-made. We all say we would like to invest into American
products but deep down inside we refuse to pay the higher
prices.
As for cars, it wasn't the price but rather
the quality that made Americans switch to foreign cars.
Dan
V
T. Houston C5
C6
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Greg
- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Cc: [email protected]
- Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:47 PM
- Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart
- No one should be forced to hire someone or sell something. But not
all Malmart employees pay taxes. They have been busted a number of times
paying illegals to clean up at night… off the books. The rues you
mentioned to get on Malmart’s shelves…should not include firing American
workers and moving to China. I for one don’t mind paying a bit more, if
it helps the economy and local mom and pop stores. I love “walking”
around little areas of stores fronts. I know a hat might be cheaper at
Walmart, but the day of fun was worth it. When Walmat moves in,
they close down. Our city is now trying to redevelop their tiny downtown
area. Building many townhouses, small shops, restaurants. Trying
to make it a small urban area. Where you can live, and walk to all the
stores you need. It’s a very cute and fun area. If Malmart moves in, it
would close many of the store and soon have empty buildings again. It’s
all a quality of life issue. You like quick one stop shopping… I like
looking around, going to corner farmers markets and looking through
stores in a shopping village. It’s fine to have both, but Malmart wants
to be “The Only”
J. Leave at least a
few corners for the little guys…
- Greg
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- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
- Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:45 PM
- To: [email protected]
- Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart
- Americans are jobless because they won't work for the same
wages.
- I think all US-WALMART employees pay US taxes. If you
mean the Chinese workers, NO Chinese worker pays US
taxes. American companies can get on WALMART's shelves, they
just have to follow Walmart's rules. The internet is also as
great place to hawk one's wares. Bossing Walmart around is a poor
substitute for smarting up and beating them at their own game.
- Are you suggesting that Walmart should dismiss all foreign labor and
hire only American workers at whatever the Americans will consent to
work for because that's the loyal thing to do? You think they
should voluntarily or be forced to hire expensive labor and live with
the losses? Are you ready to pay more for everything on the
shelves at Walmart?
- After forcing Walmart to do the loyal thing, will you go after the
oil industry to roll back prices to the 1950 level? They are both
in the fantasy realm you know.
- Dave
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