Re: [QUAD-L] Viewing the "Big Picture"

[DeLiMiTeD4]

He was wahabi and bath and you are right! I didn't care what saddam did as long as he did it to his friends, the kuwaitis, the saudis, the kurds and the iranians. Why should America care if we are buying oil from a sadistic rotten dictator, instead of another sadistic rotten dictator. A little history. We dealt with Saddam while knowing about his gas attacks. We knew the kuwaitis were stealing oil from iraq for eight years during the iraq iran war. He asked our ambassador to iraq rwo days before invading kuwait, "does America have interests in the stability or the direction of the kuwaiti royal family?" she ansered, "no.". Kuwaiti's are sunni and wahabi and for the most part, they are relatives to many of the sunnis in southern iraq as the border is completely unnatural. America is vitally interested in selling oilfield and pipeline equipment to kuwait. Kuwait's sole value to the US is as an oil distribultor. Kuwaitis tend to dislike Americans. Saudis are a joke. Saudis hate Americans and tolerate us because of money. Saudis feel this way about all westerners and even many muslims. Saudis support 99% of all anti western terrorism, even though they may hate the terrorists. ie: palestinians, hesbollah, hamas. Alquaeda was welcome in Saudi society untill after the invasion of afghanistan by US. Obviously, it is merely underground. In the 1970's the US supported the Shaw of Iran. (we did put him in power) We were building him a nuclear power plant, No Shit! He made Saddam look like a piker. He even tortured Americans..and got away with it! iranians are mostly shi'a and for some reason most of them are not anti western, but the theocratic gov't they have is radically anti western, and building a nuclear power plant without American help. Wahabi teachings that go on in most sunni areas teaches that muslims such as shi'a are better than Christians but should be beheaded for the way they interpret the q'uran. Palestinians are sunni, shi'a and christian and largely despised in many arab countries. Jordanians know that the respect they get from other arab states comes from the respect the people show their king (go figure). It does earn them cheap oil. If, in 1991, America's responce to the Iraqi attack on Kuwait had been to do nothing. Or to do nothing on promise of 10 dollar a barrel oil for 25years, we would have lost nothing and harmed no one in the middle east. We would have been viewed as an honest broker. We put infidels in their holy land in 1991. Not for business. We put them their to kill muslims. Let us take great shame in our foriegn policies. We no longer just lie to the arabs and muslims,,now we lie to ourselves. We can't wash the blood from our hands while we kill more of them each day. Bring our troops home Mr Bush. You wouldn't like an arab democracy anyway. P.S. Read about Arab American relations. It is all about money, except the part about religion.   john     In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:07:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not an evil dictator, really?  You missed all the reports huh?  Kuwaties got in his way, Kurds were gassed in very large numbers.  He shot, killed, raped, plundered hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen so he was certainly evil.   He might not have been the MOST evil dictator on the planet but it's hard to find a 'good' reason to go after the MOST evil.   This war was fueled by oil, revenge, and wmd talk.  Edie Amin simply killed his own citizens.  No oil, no thumbing his nose at the US, no real threat to anyone outside his own country.  He was evil but we didn't care. O'C