I want to know why it is ok to fertilize these eggs and set them up for a
certain death and then their religious morals kick in and preach it’s ok to
create life for destruction but not destroy it to saves lives, just throw
that in the trash I’m done with it!

 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 

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From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Six Stem Cell Facts

 

So what do you do with the thousands of excess fertilized eggs that result
from in vitro fertilization? Store them forever? Ban the process? These
excess eggs are thrown into the garbage everyday yet I don't hear anyone
complaining. So what's your answer.

Dan 


At 07:50 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my
response:
  



Glad to see you partly agree with me Dan. (yes I realize you were being
sarcastic) I don't agree with the part about having elaborate funerals and
burying them, but yes we must not destroy unused fertilized eggs created for
IVF treatments.

Using unused embryos is not the same as organ donation because organ donor
are dead before organs are harvested. Removing stem cells from an embryo
kills the embryo. 

I've listened to Dr Kerr from Johns Hopkins talk a few times about his
research. HYPERLINK
"http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/"http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/
watch his presentation at the 2006 symposium here HYPERLINK
"http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en"http://vi
deo.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en 
he mentioned that they want to use the embryos created for IVF that are
deformed (something to that effect) and can not be used for in-vitro
treatment. Now I can go along with using those that could not be used to
result in a pregnancy. 

I agree with S. 30: A bill to intensify research to derive human pluripotent
stem cell lines


At 06:35 PM 4/7/2007, Dan wrote:



Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those useless fertilized eggs. We
should let them perish on their own and then we should have an elaborate
funeral and bury them in a tiny little plot of earth. AND we must not allow
abortion at ANY cost. Thank you Jesus! Hallelujah! 

Dan, who always gives great credence to anything authored by a reverend. 

At 06:15 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my
response:
  




 


SIX STEM CELL FACTS


 

*       There are non-controversial alternatives worth exploring; such as
the reprogramming of ordinary somatic (body) cells, the derivation of stem
cells from amniotic fluid, and (assuming that it can be shown that the
product is not an embryo), altered nuclear transfer. 
*       Concerns about embryo destruction are not only religious; but merely
a healthy respect for the human capacity for doing evil in pursuit of the
good. 
*       The search for cures is not the only motive behind ESC research,;
many scientists are interested only in enhancing basic scientific knowledge
of such things as cell signaling, tissue growth and early human development.





Source: Robert P. George and Thomas V. Berg, "Six Stem Cell Facts," Wall
Street Journal, March 14, 2007.

For text:

HYPERLINK
"http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117384191108736444.html"http://online.wsj.c
om/article/SB117384191108736444.html 


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