Tolerance is something I strive to achieve every day, but I have found the
older I get the more intolerant I am of things which annoy me.  I won't get
into all of that here, but I once again found this particular thread to be
refreshing.  Yet one person's belief that there is nothing after death and
another who shared their "near death" (not sure if that's the correct term)
experience.

My "near death" experience was slightly different, in that I had some large
EMT screaming and yelling at me as he performed CPR in the evacuation
helicopter.  I felt as if I was in a glass coffin and unable to escape to
tell this person that I was fighting like hell.  I had one day thought about
writing about the experience, but interestingly enough I thought the series
"Homicide on the Streets" covered it pretty well in one of their episodes
were an individual suffers from a stroke.  Although, after that particular
episode I dropped the series because the character that suffered that
massive stroke ended up coming back so fast without any rehabilitation that
it really ticked me off.  Definitely wasn't believable at all, in my
opinion.

Sorry to stray, but I continue to find it refreshing that individuals here
can exchange opinions without getting nasty with each other.  Keep it up and
try consider what others might think as you put pen to paper, so to speak.
Quadius



On 4/14/07, Angie Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm not offended by your thoughts, John.  Tolerance, I think, depends on
the individual and what they have learned in their life about intolerance
versus tolerance.  I think that I'm pretty tolerant of just about
everything, now.  Some issues can never be tolerated, and if they are, it
would be awful and vile: child abuse of any kind, sexual assault, incest,
spousal abuse, etc.

Before my injury when I was 13, I was tolerant of what my household was
tolerant of.  We've all grown since then.  I've found myself to be more
accepting and tolerant of other people's beliefs, especially in whatever
makes them happy.  It's not easy to be happy, so more power to you when you
find your thing that does it for you.  As long as it isn't physically
damaging someone else.  (Unless they deserve it.)

Yes, I argue for embryonic stem cell research.  But if people are against
it, that's their deal.

-Angie

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I will probably offend someone else as I seem to do quite often but If you
need proof then you have no faith. You can't sit and question a faith. The
big differences come in what you have faith in. The questions aren't simple,
like,"will your faith tolerate embryonic stem cell research?" They are
complex like, "will your faith allow you to tolerate the existance of
someone who studies embryonic stem cells?" Does your faith really respect
the rights of people who have a different faith?
A lot of us know that Christian history doesn't have much tolerance for
other Christians, let alone people that worship non-Christian faiths. For
alomost a century we have allowed our leaders to discuss how tolerant we
are. I don't think we are tolerant. Maybe we are but I don't see it. We
preach tolerance. We seem to want to be tolerant. Most of us (able-bodied
and handicapped) hate large groups of people for all sorts of reasons.
My grandfather use to say the second amendment made people tolerant. Not
enough of us are armed?

john


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [QUAD-L] after death

 I really don't know about everyone but, I believe there is live after
death. I died and came back. Here is my story.
Wheelchair Warrior

**
**
*My Near Death Experience*
**
*One day I was fine and the next day I could not breathe. I was so scared
and at the same time it was so peaceful. My mother was with me in the
intensive care. She looked kind of funny for she was wearing those green
gowns. As I looked up at her I know at that very moment I was going to die
and said:" Mom I'm dying." All of a sudden everything went black. Then I was
surrounded by Angles. The room became a beautiful golden light. I heard
sounds of wind chimes and Angels were taking me up into the light. I turn
and saw so many doctors working on me. They were racing around and putting a
tube down my throat. One of the doctors garbed a long suction cup that is
attached to a machine and places it again my chest. The other doctor said:
"clear" and my body jump up from the bed. They were using the electricity
paddle over and over, but the doctors couldn't get my heart started. Each
time they used the paddles my body arch up and full to the bed, but I wanted
to go with the Angels. All at once I was by a river.  It was beautiful on
the other side it was like looking into the Garden of Eden. I saw a man
surrounded by a golden light. He held out his arms and said:" If it is to
pain full come across." It was JUSES! Oh how I wanted to go to him. I turn
my head, and saw the doctors still working to save my life. I looked at
Jesus he told me that he had so much more for me to do on earth. I was asked
if you can not take the pain just cross the river!  I said:" Yes I could
take the pain." All at once I want back into my body and was in a coma.
Later I found out I was dead for five minutes. The doctor told my family
that I was in Gods hands. The only thing to do was to pray. *
*After three weeks I woke up from the coma. A nurse was standing beside
me. I ask her is it time to wake up. She jumped back like she heard the
voice of God. That is when she ran to get the doctor, I was upset because I
wanted to go back to see Jesus! When the doctor came in he to was surprised
to see me awake. He told me I was in a coma for three weeks and he didn't
know if I would have came out of it. There was a lot of people praying for
you young lady. Doctor David Smith only had one arm.  He knows what he was
doing. God Bless Him.*
*          I wanted to add to this story that I know God has used me in so
many ways. I know that the Lord is with me everyday of my life. Even though
sometimes I just want to be in that heavenly place, and feel that inner
peace. I know that it is not my decision to make, it is the Lords*

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