Lori

I hope your experience isn't signs of things to come, I'm 10 years post and all 
we have done up til now is clean leg bag every night w/1to7 bleach and the same 
for my night bag. We change my night bag weekly, the only signs of sediment is 
in the tube leading to night bag, it looks like puss but it isn't noticeable in 
the night bag. I have been in hospital once for uti and after 3 days the 
culture came back negitive, probably wasn't a uti, other than that I don't get 
utis ( knock on wood ).

Colin
C4/5 Post 10 years
  ----- Original Message -----  
  From: Lori Michaelson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Danny Hearn<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters


  It is a crap shoot. When I began having problems with my catheter plugging 
beginning in 1989... it happened so often that I had to irrigate. I was not 
having any UTI problems at the time. Only sludge and much sediment. I cannot 
remember what I used way back then but it was since then that irrigating became 
a part of my life right through to the year 2000. Then, strangely enough, the 
sludge and the sediment disappeared but I began having numerous UTIs. Figure 
that one out! 

  Anyway, I remember in 1998 I was irrigating with a mixture of distilled water 
(best) and vinegar. I had to keep doing this for the catheter to flow.

  I think NOW that in 2000 ... it was the very beginning of my stones forming. 
Because in 2001 or very early 2002 I had an ultrasound done and the results 
showed three tiny stones. The stupid urologist I chose then at that time told 
me that they were probably not the problem for my UTIs. Because I asked him 
directly... "Will this help my problem with my ongoing urinary tract 
infections?" His response was "no." And I was so afraid of having anything 
surgically done that I did not need to.   I had had many, many, many tiny 
stones before that I had not caused me any UTI so I figured I was in the clear. 

  But the UTIs got worse and worse and worse ever since and you know what has 
happened since. I finally had the CT scan done here in Arizona and I had rocks 
in my bladder rather than tiny little stones.  Obviously harboring 
bacteria...BAD bacteria. 

  From my husband's medical experience and standpoint... unless you are having 
a problem with sediment or sludge... irrigating only pushes things back up into 
the bladder. OPPORTUNISTIC.   So why do it just for the heck of it? 

  From my experience... I would check (via a specimen for it specifically) 
every six months to make sure that the pH of your urine is at or very close to 
a 6. That was my problem... because I could not get it down near a 6 .... I had 
no idea why until I read that article about potassium.  So much for A  URO NOT 
SOLVING THAT ONE. 

  So I guess my answer is no irrigating unless absolutely necessary.

  AND YES... ABOUT TIME YOU GOT A NEW URO BEFORE YOUR UTIs got the better of 
you!   

  I thought you had a death wish the way you were playing around so long.


  But why did you have to spend time in the hospital instead of receiving the 
IV antibiotics at home? Hospitals are breeding grounds for bacteria so I am 
surprised that was the chosen route??? 
  Lori Michaelson

  C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post

  Tucson, AZ




  On 10/26/07, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: 
    Hi - All---- My new Urologist thinks I should irrigate thru my supra pubic 
catheter about once a week or so, to help prevent bladder stones. Does anyone 
else in here do this on a regular basis ? It sounds like a good idea, but I was 
wondering if irrigating might cause more UTI's or bladder infections. 
                                                                                
                     Dan H.

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