Let me add my congrats, too, Ron.  I didn't really "recognize" the anniversary 
of my injury until I hit #18.  Doctors told me when I was injured that most 
quads my age (17 at time of injury) don't make it to age 35.

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good 
with ketchup.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Our Relationship With Others / Ron 10 years


  Congratulations Ron on your 10 year mark.  Does it seem like a lifetime or 
only 10 years?  Just wondering!
  Dana.
   C4 5, 33 years Post, 54, Prairie Village, Kansas suburb of Kansas City.

  In a message dated 1/19/2008 1:03:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
     
    Hi Ron,

    Sorry this is late, but I want to offer my congratulations to you on 
reaching your 10 year mark as a Quad.  Those of who have been there, know just 
how much it takes to reach ten years.  Stay strong.

    With Love,
     
    CtrlAltDel aka Dave
    C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
    Texas, USA 


    RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

      Im a c7 fairly functional quad, I remember an instance where I pulled up 
to a gas pump with my van for the sole purpose to see if I could gas my van up 
in a emergency. I got out and the first challenge was getting the credit card 
out of the slot once i pushed it in. Immediately some guy stopped and was 
helping me, this was a double edged sword. I appreciated his help but I didnt 
meet my personal goal. Eventually I went back and met the goal.

      In my situation as long as I know i can open a door, make a sandwich and 
all that fun stuff myself, I dont mind if someone helps me sometimes because it 
does save energy for the other things during the day.Im just at the ten year 
mark in a chair and Im trying to become more laidback about these things 
although I have my bad days.

      10 yrs in a chair today!!!!!!!!! woohoo         jan 16 98-  jan 16 08

      ron c7 


      [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        Very well put W. I am a high level quad and I need help doing most 
things. The average AB can't recognize those of us quads or paras that need 
help and those that don't. Since I'm one of those quads that do need a lot of 
help, I'm always happy when someone opens a door or picks up something I 
dropped, etc., etc. It makes my day to know that in this increasingly selfish 
society, there are still people who will take a moment to help someone out. 

        My type of disability won't get better - only worse over time. I 
remember having a discussion with an OT and she said 'Sure Dan, you can 
struggle to get your shirt on or cut up your food etc. but how long will these 
things take and at what expense to your time and energy reserve? If a PCA does 
these things for you, you can save time and energy for the really important 
things in life - like masturbation or working on the computer'.   

        And Bill, would you say the same thing about watching an elderly lady 
with a bad limp and using a cane struggling to cross a parking lot carrying a 
large bag of groceries? Go granny, go! Come on you can do it and if you have 
another stroke trying at least you gave it your best shot. Bravo!

        Dan - who is grateful for the compassionate ones.

           
        At 01:10 PM 1/16/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that 
elicited my response:
          

          I got your mail but was pondering the issue before making comments.  
You mentioned the term "normal."
          That is one word in the dictionary that I fail to comprehend in 
judging others.  I submit that when you find a perfect normal, please take a 
picture of it and share it with the rest of us.
           
          Until you achieve the status of being independent, you have to 
tolerate some of those acts like 
          those who hold the door, say G'Morning and shake your hand, as a 
greeting.
           
          Sometimes, just saying thank you but I'd like to try it myself.... 
and stick around I might need your
          help.
           
          Best Wishes
           
          In a message dated 1/16/2008 11:45:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
            Gaday Mates:  
            I am wondering if my connection with the list has been severed?  
Two days have passed now and not one posting has been received in my email.  
Or, everyone has already tired of my diatribe and stopped writing. (grin). 
            Seriously, I was just thinking about those of us who lead an 
entirely different lifestyle than normal people and how our lifestyle effects 
those around us.  Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on 
these matters.  Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with 
my statements. 
            One of the more difficult issues I have encountered in establishing 
a relationship with others is asking them to please allow me to complete 
whatever task I may be attempting, without someone saying, "Here, let me do 
that for you."  This naturally comes about when they see you struggling with a 
project or catch you involved in an efforts of some sort. 
            I have learned as I know all of you have that it is necessary for 
us to try as much as we can to complete the task we are attempting, regardless 
of how awkward we may appear.  Those who do offer to help have only our best 
interest in mind, but understandably, they do not realize the amount of 
self-confidence and pride we gain when we can actually accomplish even the 
simplest of jobs. 
            Example.  Opening a jar, buttoning a button, picking something up.  
At first we may not succeed, but through repeated attempts, we learn ways in 
which to overcome the daily obstacles that forever seem to be in our path. 
            Well, enough venting for today.  I'm please to actually have 
someone to express these opinions to. 
            Bill of Ill. 




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