Forgot to send this to the group instead of one person:
> All of my experiences in rehab and then going to outpatient rehab after I > came home -- have been better with PTs than OTs by far. This was a recent > topic not too long ago here and I remember writing that here on the > list then too. > > In my experience, all the OTs wanted to put everyone with a spinal cord > injury "into the same box" or even "into the same disability box" as other > disabilities. By that I mean that if a certain gadget or gizmo works for > "so and so" -- then it should work for everyone. All of mine were also very > snooty and they KNEW unequivocally what was best. > > On the other hand all of my PTs were great! I was in rehab three months > and then went to outpatient rehab for probably three months also. This was > 28 years ago so times have changed and experiences are all different. I say > 28 years because I was in the hospital (before in-house rehab hospital) for > nine months. > > In case you notice that my signature below says 29 years. > > Lori Michaelson > Age - 44 > C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post > Tucson, AZ > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Quadius <quad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Some of the issues you raised here John are specifically why a >> well-rounded team approach should be used in all spinal cord injured >> patients. Sadly that is impractical given all of the problems with >> insurance in this country. >> >> I didn't have the opportunity to go to one of the venerated rehabilitation >> centers, but the VA hospital in Tampa offered a pretty good rehab. I had >> the use of KTs, PTs, OTs, psychiatrists, social workers, and recreational >> therapist. Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the services. >> >> Maybe one day we'll get to the point where everyone can be treated the >> same. >> Q >> >> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM, John S. <alcibiat...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> As confusing as this may sound, you can have either an OT or a PT and >>> one can be better than the other purely from experience. Never judge them by >>> which one you like the best. While I have the attention of so many pro's >>> here, I'd like to mention how critical psychiatric therapy can be for the >>> traumatic quads and paras. It isn't fair to many of them to have to answer >>> questions of tremendous importance when they can't get their mind around not >>> walking again. I feel the psychologist might be a great help in determining >>> the patients ability to help in their treatment as well as helping them to >>> move on more quickly in positive directions. >>> I've found that many OTs and PTs are far more educated than when I became >>> a quad. Often doctors do not know what autonomic dysreflexia is and do not >>> spot signs of the onset of seizures. I guess if doctors are going to be >>> dumber, the rest of the medical community better get smart fast. >>> That is the best I can do. I'm obviously in more pain than I thought I'd >>> be. >>> >>> all the best, >>> john >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- On *Thu, 1/22/09, Tara Fettes <tarafette...@yahoo.com>* wrote: >>> >>> From: Tara Fettes <tarafette...@yahoo.com> >>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Occupational Therapist vs Physical >>> Therapist........ >>> To: wheelch...@aol.com, imsweet1...@hotmail.com, tiffany51...@yahoo.com, >>> dav...@aol.com >>> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com >>> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 6:00 PM >>> >>> >>> hi all, my name is tara and i too am a student with the same group. the >>> difference with me is that i've done PT the past 15 years and now am trading >>> sides to OT. Why you may ask? #1 is the stress to my body, just wont be >>> able to do for 35 more years or more.(since retirement is getting older) >>> some differences: PT is now a doctorate program. OT is now a master's >>> program. they say that PT gets you there, and OT give you something to do >>> once your there. as far as what services are best, it really depends on >>> what your problem is and even then, all therapists have some specialty so >>> you need to make sure they have experience with your issue, more than just >>> what they learned in theory. both do wheelchairs, however if you need >>> custom, you are best with a RESNA certified ATP (assistive technology >>> provider) -that's an extra exam and credentials either may obtain. since i >>> am new to this i dont know if it posted to everyone. please help. Tara >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com> >>> *To:* imsweet1...@hotmail.com; tiffany51...@yahoo.com; dav...@aol.com >>> *Cc:* quad-list@eskimo.com >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:07:24 PM >>> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Occupational Therapist vs Physical Therapist........ >>> >>> Thank You for your candidate reply and no argument from me as how you >>> explained your positive goal for your clients when you graduate. One >>> question I've always had is in a perfect world a client in need would have >>> the service of both an OT or PT. However in the present economy, not all >>> clients are faced with the perfect world. That being the case, which is >>> more important? The services of an Occupational Therapist or that of a >>> Physical Therapist? I realize this is a touchy question as it is usually >>> the rehab doctors that orders or not order the various therapies. And I >>> also realize that clients vary, depending on their goals. So I guess I just >>> have to ask you to plead your need. What say ?? >>> >>> Best (lol) Wishes >>> W >>> >>> In a message dated 1/20/2009 8:49:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, >>> imsweet1...@hotmail.com writes: >>> >>> Hello everyone I am an occupational therapy student also just like marie >>> and tiffany hi guys we actually go to school. To answer the question whats >>> the difference between OT and PT is OT wants you and tries to help you >>> reengage in your prior occupations like school, work, selfcare. We even care >>> about the past lesuire activites that interest our clients. Pt wants you to >>> build strength and stamina, however, getting you back into your roles as a >>> student, parent, husband or wife etc.... is not their complete comcern. In >>> OT its the basis of all our intereventions. does that help? what do you >>> think girls. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> From: wheelch...@aol.com >>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:53:06 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Baclofen q's.... >>> To: tiffany51...@yahoo.com; dav...@aol.com >>> CC: quad-list@eskimo.com >>> >>> Welcome Ladies, >>> >>> While you are both here, care to let us all know the difference between >>> an OT and a PT, education and your technical services offered to your >>> clients when you graduate...... >>> >>> Best Wishes >>> >>> In a message dated 1/20/2009 7:22:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, >>> tiffany51...@yahoo.com writes: >>> >>> Hello everyone I am an occupational therapy student also just like marie >>> hi marie we actually go to school together. Well all those little activities >>> that the ot made u do helped regain fine motor control which enables you to >>> engage in occupations that require you to use your fine motor skills I hope >>> this helps!!! If not let me know if u need more information we are here to >>> help each other learn Tiffany >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2009, at 1:33 PM, dav...@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> when i was in o.t. in '67, they helped me work on regaining fine motor >>> control - picking up pennys, determining objects in a bag, building a little >>> coffee table, ...... none of which was very 'occupational'. can you share >>> with us what the current objectives in giving o.t. to recovering sci >>> patients? i'm sure a lot of us would be glad to share ideas on the subject. >>> azdave >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Marie Dornbush <mariedor...@gmail.com> >>> To: <emma_wolf2...@yahoo.com>emma_wolf2...@yahoo.com >>> Cc: <quad-list@eskimo.com>quad-list@eskimo.com >>> Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 9:14 pm >>> Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Baclofen q's.... >>> >>> Hi Everyone! I'm new to this group. I am currently studying to become >>> an Occupational Therapist. I just wanted to introduce myself, and see your >>> perspectives. Let me know if you have any questions about occupational >>> therapy and I would be happy to answer. I'm very interested in what everyone >>> has to say. >>> >>> -Mare, OTS >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:51 PM, andrea murray <<emma_wolf2...@yahoo.com> >>> emma_wolf2...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Yes I took baclofen for a long time when I was in High School. I >>> have CP and the doctor I was seeing then was for the drug for people with >>> CP. In 1993 I broke my neck and the had to go off it. I didn't have any side >>> effect. In away I wish I was back on it, because I have really bad -muscle >>> spasms.. >>> Wheelchair Warrior >>> -- On *Mon, 1/19/09, t crook < <onemofor...@yahoo.com> >>> onemofor...@yahoo.com>* wrote: >>> >>> From: t crook < <onemofor...@yahoo.com>onemofor...@yahoo.com> >>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Baclofen q's.... >>> To: "q-list" < <quad-list@eskimo.com>quad-list@eskimo.com> >>> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 1:29 PM >>> >>> I would like to know who uses baclofen and the side effects you >>> experience; like hypotension (which I already suffer from), or any side >>> effects. I took this drug right after my accident in '88, but that was 20 >>> yrs. ago and my memory did not log any recollection of the side effects. >>> Below is a news link; a doctor claims it worked for his addiction to >>> alcohol, it got me thinking of changing my spasm medicine. I do not suffer >>> from alcohol addiction; but I take diazapam for spasms, and was going to >>> talk to my doc about baclofen for the spasms. 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