I've always noticed that you don't see a lot of things written about procedures when they don't work. They don't tend to write great medical dissertations about stem cell research that doesn't work. When you don't hear about the results of adult stem cell treatments being experimented with, in all likelihood, the experiments failed. When 99% of the scientists that play about with this unholy technology stand up and say that they have and are studying adult stem cells but they simply do not achieve the possibility for radical success they feel is inherent in embryonic stem cells, I tend to believe they are telling the truth. Chimpanzees with diabetes that were given adult stem cells showed no significant improvement while chimps that received ESC's did recover from both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. We are living in a day and age were we let doctors use dead bodies to learn on. Using a few dead cells? These cells would otherwise be washed down the drain, not baptized. I don't see anyone protesting at the fertility clinics. Even if they decide we should keep supporting the wheelchair industry, I'd like to know if we are being denied a cure for many of us, or even just one of us. I don't think they should force such a treatment. If you want to stay in wheelchair because it is against your beliefs, That is up to you. It is not up to you or any politician to choose that I stay in a wheelchair. We live in a country that uses the death penalty and already allows abortions. We even let one man send a bunch of Americas best off to be killed. There is no moral line we haven't crossed. It is complete hypocrisy to argue that using embryonic stem cells, that were facing destruction, in order to heal and eliminate suffering is some kind of sin God forgot to mention explicitly. Is it a miracle when doctors use the organs of a dead baby to save others? Unfettered doctors, free to practice medicine did not create NAZI's, nor were NAZI doctors a result of unfettered medical practices. That is such a denial of reality, I can't believe you even said it. Louis Pasture was an unfettered doctor, and you can blame him for mankind overpopulating the planet. You can also blame him because you know about bacteria and don't wipe yourself with your lefthand. The end of small pox was engineered by unfettered doctors. The fact that you don't have TB or syphylus is probably because some unfettered doctor handed out medicine to someone in your family that doesn't want you to know. The fact that you survived your last UTI is because an unfettered doctor invented an anti biotic. The clean water you drink is because of those same doctors. Stop drinking it. I'll send you some good stuff from the Ohio River.
I don't know how you came to the conclusion that embryonic stem cells would recreate NAZI Germany in America? the guy that caused that holocaust was doing it to punish jews for killing Christ. He was a religous fanatic in that aspect. There are no legal lines of embryonic stem cells to use. All of the lines in existence were contaminated before President Bush gave out all that money for stem cell research. $25 million dollars. (This is less money than is spent on white house security in one week.) Any results from Embryonic Stem Cell research is private and no pharmaceutical company is about to go public untill they can be sure they have patented processes that will make their share holders instant millionaires. If, as you say, Embryonic stem cell research is a medical dead end, I want to hear about it from some real researchers using serious techniques, not some politicians that are trying to score points. If you ever thought GW Bush was worried about your soul as a fellow American, then why did he accomplish so little in helping our children. His idea of medical care for children is "Any child can go to any Emergency Room and get medical treatment." If that is true, then why do so many 2 year old just lay around crying when they are sick? Children in Appalachia die of malnutrition every week. An entire family died from cholera from a contaminated septic tank. America has a lot of people that are very poor and not very educated and in many cases, doctors are simply too far away. I know people suffering from every problem and disease you mentioned yet, they have not been able to get Adult Stem Cell treatment. Why, if it works, is it not being offered as a treatment. Parkinson's patients would go to any length for a treatment that promised hope, but I haven't seen or heard of any new treatments in the pipeline. I sure haven't heard anything about spine or brain treatments from stem cells of any type in America. I love when I hear one or two people were treated with some success. any research study would involve hundreds and be duplicated in an even larger at numerous institutions. When you hear a story involving one or two people, it's a lie. Nobody can afford to do multi-million dollar research on one person. john ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:21:57 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Let's get some conversation going! Woodwork, eh? How about "would work" Stem Cell from any source is not the answer to recovery to every spinal cord injury or those with spina bifida. How nice it would be if one could find or develop a few stray cells from a donor and just recover. Would that be nice. Wouldn't that be the perfect cure. I'd hate to think that someone would take a chance on their life or body thinking that if anything goes wrong.. I'll take a dosage of stem cells and be walking again in a heart beat. Each recovery or progress is based on so many different elements. What works for one, may not work for 100. Then there is the money issue. If a doctor were to go out on a limb and tell their patient that with a stem cell transfer... they would be able to function as well as they did before their trauma, and discovered that they didn't have the money to do so. What a tease, eh? For me, its a wait n see for a couple more years on our soil. If people wish to leave the country and accept the risk.. so be it. And there will always be risks. Besides, which insurance company is paying for experimental medicine? Best Wishes In a message dated 2/19/2009 2:59:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: OK, the quad site has been quiet. Where is everybody? This will bring you out of the woodwork. Many who listened to President Obama's inaugural address believe he means to spend taxpayer money on research that destroys human embryos. Before he does, I hope somebody brings to his attention the story I'm about to tell. A few years ago, a Texas teenager named Laura Dominguez lost control of her car when she hit an oil spill on the road. The accident left Laura paralyzed from the neck down. "You'll never walk again," doctors told her. Laura refused to accept this prognosis. She and her mother met with experts on spinal cord injuries. They learned about an exciting new treatment being performed in Portugal. The procedure is known as olfactory mucosa transplantation. Surgeons take adult stem cells found in the nasal region and transplant them into the injured area. Laura underwent this treatment-and her spinal cord began to heal. She gained upper body agility, and, in time, she learned to walk with the use of braces and outside help. Laura is determined to walk unassisted by her 21st birthday. Miracles like this have been repeated many times as researchers bend their attention to the uses of adult stem cells. Writer Bradley Hughes describes many of them in his article "Real-World Successes of Adult Stem Cell Treatment." To date, Hughes writes, these "miracle cells" are providing hope for patients with Crohn's disease, lupus, heart disease, blindness, Parkinson's, and sickle-cell anemia. And according to biotech writer James P. Kelly, umbilical cord blood stem cells are already being used to treat 70 forms of blood and bone marrow cancers. And just a few days ago, there was a report at Northwestern University. Twenty-one patients with multiple sclerosis were stabilized following treatment with adult stem cells removed from each patient's bone marrow. In some patients, the disease was reversed. But because much of the mainstream media refuses to report on this, many Americans remain unaware of it. Ignorance about these cures may be driving the public's demand for embryonic stem-cell research, which kills human beings at the embryonic stage. Americans also seems unaware that not a single clinical success has resulted from treatments using embryonic stem cells. None! So why do researchers and the biotech industry push so hard for public funds for embryo-destructive research? Because science wants science for science's sake and, incidentally, because they stand to make huge profits through potential patents. It's potentially far more lucrative than research involving adult stem cells. You and I need to spread the word about the miracle cures being found through the use of adult stem cells. They're a far superior alternative to embryonic stem cells-and nobody is killed in the process of retrieving them. As science demands unfettered research in the future, we need to be encouraging ethically challenged reporters, researchers, and politicians to take a look backwards for a grim reminder of what happens when science is divorced from morality-euthanasia, gas chambers, and Nazi experiments on children. Do we really want to start down that terrible road again? GA ________________________________ Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
