Lori, Thank you for the information.
I wasn't aware that you could quickly died from being septic until it happened to me. The last time I was, I went into a coma for a 8 days and it was from a UTI. What kind of light can anyone else share about the dangers of becoming septic and the signs to look for. I was having problems doing normal things such as taking my medication, brushing my teeth, which I don't do at all independently. I was chewing my medication, biting my toothbrush and laughing inappropriately. I didn't want to go to the hospital. My mom came by and ordered an ambulance. Sometimes caregivers don't pick up on these obvious problems and get you to the hospital in time. I remember going in a coma for four days and waking up for a short time and going back into a coma. The first time I became septic, it was also a UTI. I remember talking to be IV machine like it was my computer, thinking I could put myself in bed. I started to bite my brother's finger when he was giving me lip gloss. It was really strange. We are not aware we are acting strange. I was told that having a UTI and becoming septic can also cause pneumonia, which I got the second time. I had to come home with oxygen for several weeks. Drs. thought I would die both times. It is a scary situation. It can happen so quickly. I hope others can offer more information. I don't know Mark's symptoms, before he became septic. We miss you Mark and Dave. It's so hard to believe they are gone as their lives were not long enough and they were great contributors to this list. Two of the persons I felt I could write the easiest. Mark's daughter was the music also. He spoke of several times. I know he will be playing his guitar in heaven and so glad to see his brother. Dana Dana In a message dated 6/7/2009 3:12:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Below Bill wrote "Dave died when they removed a Central IV line from his neck." I do not know if he died instantaneously as they were removing it but if he did then something caused it directly from the removal because someone does not died suddenly from such a routine procedure. When my nurse was here to change my catheter and recertify me for my home healthcare on Thursday I was asking her what could possibly have happened to Dave by explaining to her what little I knew about Dave and what happened to him. She was a nursing floor manager for many many years and is a seasoned nurse. Age - 61. Her response to me about what could have possibly happened is: Central Line (PICC Line) Problems that can go wrong: * A tip of the catheter could have broken off during removal and gone into the bloodstream causing a fatal clot. * Even though there is very little air in Central Lines — there is also the opportunity for an air bubble to be released and therefore cause a fatal air embolism. This would be especially opportunistic if the patient was taking a breath during the removal of the Central Line. I remember being told not to breathe when they were inserting and/or removing my Central Lines -- at certain crucial points. * Central Lines go right into the center of the chest where the heart and lungs are so it is very important that the person putting the lines in are specially trained to do this. The two times I had it done [in the summer of 2005 and then 2006] -- a local hospital has a special room with 2 specially trained personnel for the insertion. And that is all they do -- put in Central Lines. The removal can be done at home -- as mine was by my home health agency nurse. Not as risky as putting it in but the person/nurse/professional still has to know what they're doing. Just good to stay informed! Lori Michaelson Age - 44 C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post Tucson, AZ On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Bill Jenkins <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: Dave died when they removed a central IV line from his neck. His body (as per his wishes) was sent to a university for scientific study. His memorial service will be at 1pm CT at the Seventh Day Adventist Church, 1305 14th St., Wichita Falls, TX 76301. Jan only asked that you stop and think of Dave and his family for a few moments. I sent a small flower arrangement on behalf of the SCIC and QUAD LIST members. As Dave would say: "Stay strong." Bill J.<--The one in FL C5-6 since 7/20/68 Diving accident Age 58 Leesburg, FL If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585043x1201462775/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

