These are good points by everyone. Isn't it great when people can share without attacking the other's point of view? I think it is.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Steve Oldaker <[email protected]>wrote: > In the example below regarding the employee claiming anger management as > a disability, requiring his fellow workers to put up with his outbursts of > anger is not a reasonable accommodation in my opinion. It would be like > requiring fellow employees to bring food to an employee claiming obesity as > their disability. Was this a court ruling on an assumption on the part of > the employer? Perhaps a more reasonable accommodation if one is to be made > for an anger management disability, which seems a questionable disability at > best, would be to minimize the individual's contact with the other employees > by moving the individual to a closed office or alternate location if > possible. > > > > Steve - C4, 21 years > > > > *From:* Dan [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:21 PM > *To:* Quad List > *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] ADA > > > > exactly. How long did it take us to get curb cuts and accessibility to > public buildings Indeed, we are still fighting for these rights. The ADA was > envisioned to help those of us with severe disabilities. However, now it has > been diluted with every manner of physical impairment, either real or > imaginary. If It took those of us with severe disabilities 20+ years to > accomplish what we did, how much longer will it take us to make any strides > towards equality now that every Yahoo has joined the disability wagon? > > I was just reading that an employee was having outbursts of anger at the > workplace. He was going to be fired until he told his manager that he had a > disability. His disability was anger management issues and he was being > treated for it. So now he cannot be fired and his fellow workers have to put > up with his outbursts of anger as long as he doesn't hurt anyone and he gets > his work done. What has this world come to? > > Dan > > 08:34 PM 9/22/2009, Quadius said something that elicited my response: > > > Turning the ADA into a catchall will eventually diminish and dilute the > ability of lawyers to effectively gained those reasonable accommodations > from employers if everyone is considered to have some sort of disability. > At least that's my thinking. Then again, I'm not a lawyer. Thank goodness. > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Steve Oldaker < [email protected]> > wrote: > > Dan, > > While I am not thrilled with the dilution of what constitutes a disability > > in the new ADA, I don't see how the new ADA would be the death of the old > > ADA. > > A key component of the ADA, both old and new, is REASONABLE accommodation. > > The majority of reasonable accommodations involve minimal or no cost, and > > expensive accommodations are often financed through tax deductibility or > > state Vocational Rehabilitation programs. Also, the disabled employee must > > still meet all the requirements for the job, i.e. skills, education, > > experience, etc. The newly included disabilities, perhaps considered > > marginal by those with severe disabilities like quadriplegia, should > require > > no more reasonable accommodations than those with severe disabilities, > > likely less. > > I am only addressing employment and reasonable accommodation. There may be > > other perceived or real negative ramifications regarding the new ADA that I > > > am not aware of and/or have not considered. > > Steve - C4, 21 years > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:44 PM > > To: Quad List > > Subject: [QUAD-L] ADA > > What is going on with the ADA? Am I the only one that thinks the new > > ADA is going to be the END of the ADA? According to the new rules, > > everything is considered a disability. I mean really, ADHD, wearing > > eyeglasses, nervousness, overweight, underweight, too tall, too > > short, acne. It seems like there is nothing that is not a disability. > > I would hate to be an employer today. 95% of my staff would be > > wanting an accommodation for their quote unquote disability. > > With all of these disabilities floating around, how in the world can > > they all be enforced. And if they are, life as we know it would come > > to a standstill. Sometimes I think this was some sort of an evil plot > > to do away with the ADA. Could someone please tell me how or why this > > happened? > > This law will never be undone, because it is sacrosanct. Can you > > imagine someone saying they want to limit the requirements of the > > ADA. What do you guys think? > > Dan >
