That is true. Unfettered capitalism, however, will ultimately only work for a certain segment of the population. Dan's example of the fire department, police department, and other programs are a perfect example of how socialist programs can work with in an essentially capitalist society.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, bob quinn <[email protected]> wrote: > Good answer! The countries you name are all also democracies too, if i'm > not mistaken. And, they also all have essentially capitalist economies > ...which goes to show these concepts/labels are not mutually exclusive, but > are a matter of degree and perception (or prejudice). > > At 06:08 PM 10/28/2009, Dan wrote: > >Those countries which have a much higher degree of socialism then the > United States. These countries being, Sweden, France, England, Norway. In > fact, most of the prosperous European states. You must remember that our own > country has a moderate degree of socialism as is evident in our educational > system, fire departments, police departments, and military establishment. > > > >Dan > > > >At 11:43 AM 10/28/2009, bob quinn said something that elicited my > response: > > > >>Hi Dan, > >> > >>Just curious, what successful socialist country would you hold up as an > example? > >> > >>At 08:32 PM 10/27/2009, Dan wrote: > >>>As John has said before, democracy is nothing more than mob rule. Our > country is not a democracy but rather a representative form of government. > That is, we elect people to do our bidding. The trouble is greed gets in the > way. So our representatives stop representing ourselves and start > representing those with the most money. This is where capitalism comes into > play. For some reason the majority of people in this country love this > system. They love the American way which is like a giant game of Monopoly. A > few get people all the money and of course all the power. The people with > all the power elect those who in turn see to it that those in power, stay in > power. > >>> > >>>A much more humane system of governance would be a form of all the > socialism. Which is what most people in the world use as a form of > government. This country is afraid of socialism. They think socialism is the > same as communism. Communism is not the bugaboo that people seem think it > is. The trouble with Communism is, it doesn't work. But it is a great idea. > Everyone does their share of the work and reaps their share of the profits. > But of course, there is always one or two slackers, and then three or four > slackers, and so on and so on until you have a few people doing most of the > work with the resulting lack of profits, produce, etc.. Unfortunately, I > guess that's common nature. > >>> > >>>This is where socialism came in. People in socialist countries work far > fewer hours than they do in strictly capitalistic countries. Because they > don't work as hard they generally are much happier. The government provides > them with all the necessities of life. Such as; education, medical care, a > good infrastructure, police force, fire department, etc. Of course, they are > heavily taxed. But it does not seem to bother them as all their basic needs > are provided for. How many people do you know that waste their excess money? > I have neighbors that don't have a pot to piss in yet they have four cars in > their driveway. I have neighbors that fight to see who can get the biggest > pool or most expensive car or - well you get the point. > >>> > >>>Okay I'm done ranting. > >>> > >>>Dan > >
