Great post Don, well stated.

On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Don Price <[email protected]> wrote:

This thread reminds me of those days in grade school when we'd stand on the playground and taunt each other over which side of town was better. You'll never get agreement or change each others' mind, so it's kind of amusing to me.

I wish we could all agree that there are good people AND bad people in every group. If I want to demonize your group I'll point to the worst person I can find in that group and generalize the rest of you.

Any Republican that would resort to racial slurs and bigotry is an idiot, just as any Democrat that resorts to racial slurs and hatred is an idiot. The knee-jerk hatred and name-calling both sides invest in only serves to further polarize the groups and spiral relations downward.

If I followed you around for 24 hours recording everything you did and said I could edit together a five-minute segment to make you look like either the nicest person on the planet or the biggest jerk. My point is that facts can be twisted, depending on how they're presented.

Several years ago I registered as an Independent; not because I don't have opinions, but rather I didn't want to be associated with either party. As someone who tries to look at both [or multiple] sides of issues, rather than automatically accepting my party's view on it, I find it disheartening that so many people fall in lockstep with what they're told.

The health-care bill, like anything else man-made, surely has its flaws. I'm sure it also has its good points. Have any of you actually read all 2,500 [or so] pages of this bill? I know I haven't. People with a (D) behind their name seem to think it's the greatest thing ever written, while those with an (R) say it's the end of the world as we know it. It's neither of those. We should form an opinion based on the best information we can find and then act accordingly. But, listening to only 'your' side of the debate, and shouting down those 'evil other-siders,' will get you only what you want to hear.

Let's try to speak to each other rather than at each other. We're all in this together.

Don.

From: Dan <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:00:32 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Obama's New Health Care Plan

I was disgusted and saddened by the hatefulness and bigotry that the Republicans exhibited in this debate. When protesters (with the approval of the Republican leaders) say things like: ni**a lover, fa**ot, and other disgusting comments it shows how low they will go to try and regain the White House. The constant hate talk on Conservative talk shows turns my stomach. If the Republicans would have civil and constructive debates instead of just constantly saying: 'No - we're right and you're wrong because you are blankity blank blank.' I would have more respect for them.

Dan


At 01:45 PM 3/23/2010, bob quinn said:

At 01:16 PM 3/23/2010, Lori Michaelson wrote:

The decision was made by Obama and, by damn, according to him it was going to happen. No ifs, ands or buts.

Yea, finally! I only wish he had stopped asking "The Party of No" for input last summer, instead of waiting till now. Then we might have got what the rest of the modern world has, a public option or single-payer system.

As long as for-profit health insurance companies rule, we're doomed.

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