I took a regular bed bag onto the end of my ilio conduit bag. I drank a lot 
 and the ilio conduit bag gets full quite often. My mom also has one, but 
she is  able bodied, so she can empty herself. She does wear a bed bag at 
night. It is  easier than the indwelling catheter 
 
I found out this year I had kidney stones and I had three Lithotripsy  
treatments and it got rid of one stone but there are still several, but not  
impairing urine passage.

I do not have a bladder, because of bladder  cancer in 86.
 
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In a message dated 3/11/2012 1:02:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

How  do you deal with the bag? Do you have to empty it often?

Dan

At  01:25 PM 3/11/2012 -0400, [email protected] said something that elicited 
my  response:

> 
>When I was going through bladder cancer,  it might be the same thing they 
offered me, but I cannot Myself so they  decided an ilio conduit would be 
better as it requires no regular cathetering.  I remember he referred to it as 
a artificial bladder, that was in 86. I don't  mind the ilio conduit, it 
seems easier than having to be catheterized.
>  
>It was considered rare for a woman to have bladder cancer in 86. They  had 
not had very many patients that were female with bladder cancer. Craig did  
a study about those and later called me.
> 
>Dana
> 
>  
>In a message dated 3/10/2012 8:48:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:
>>I asked about this and they assure me it  is not the same.  I think with 
the conduit one still has to cath  themselves.  I was also told by some 
people it could be referred to as a  Florida pouch, but they tell me that is 
not 
the same procedure.  They  kept referring to it as a chimney.
>>
>>
>>On Sun,  Feb 26, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Quadius  
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>They tell me that is the common name, although some  people tell me the 
ileo conduit is another name, but I'm not sure.   
>>>
>>>On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM,  
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>Quadius, does this procedure have any common  names?
>>>>Best Wishes
>>>>  
>>>>In a message dated 2/21/2012 5:51:34 P.M. Central Standard  Time, 
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]  writes:
>>>>>I have been experiencing a multitude of  problems over the last year 
and finally I had a cystoscopy done in August  which showed there were no 
stones or any other obstructions.  I had been  experiencing a lot of pain from 
the catheter rubbing against the back of the  bladder wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have managed to  tape my suprapubic (SP) against a stat lock device 
that I'm using on my lower  abdomen.  This is working well with the pain 
most of the time, but I am  still having problems with my catheter not draining 
properly at times.   Repositioning the bag so that the urine has to travel 
up seems to help about  50% of the time, but there also seems to be those 
times when we have to flush  with some saline in order to get it draining  
again.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I explain this to  be urologist, who works on a multitude of 
quadriplegics here in Tampa and as  been my urologist for the last 10 years) 
she 
informed me that I would be an  ideal candidate for the ileovesicostomy.  
She told me that my catheter  had atrophied so significantly that it was 
probably one of the only options  left up to me.  I have been procrastinating 
and thought I had everything  resolved, but I have been experiencing a lot of 
problems lately.  I think  I'm just delaying the  inevitable.
>>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone on this  list have the procedure and if so would they mind 
telling me their  experiences?
>>>>>
>>>>>I am searching  through forums right now and trying to gather as much 
information as I  can.  I'm planning on scheduling another meeting with my 
urologist in  order to allay my fears.  I haven't had surgery since I have 
been  paralyzed and I'm terribly frightened of general anesthetic.  I don't  
want to be put back on a ventilator after spending four months of what I now  
think were the worst months of my life fighting to get off the  ventilator.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, if you can  help out I really  appreciated.
>>>>>Quadius
>>>>>PS please  excuse any errors.  Among the backup to my backup 
microphone and it has  some static bursts into it right now.  I really need to 
get my 
computer  and microphones within working order again.
>  





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