Don, back in the day, your barber, did the work of today's surgeons, and  
there were no lawsuits.  The operating room often was the barber chair and  
sometimes at the nearest home. Profit wasn't considered as everyone paid for  
their own haircuts and shaves (smiling)  Today, its all so very  different. 
 We actually have For-Profit Private Hospitals who turn away  ambulances to 
other facilities.  They survive on the gravy of the business  and self 
paying customers.  These hospital often look just like regular  hospitals from 
the outside.  Many or most of today's modern hospital have  been taken over 
by most of the religious groups.  We have the Catholic,  Baptist, Lutheran, 
Mormon and several others too.  Today, these hospital  are rarely charity in 
the sense we remember and you don't get out without paying  or signing a 
promise to pay agreement.
Regarding lawsuits, I believe most have medical merit before an  
administrative judge.  And how much value to we place on permanent  loss?  I 
agree 
with you that nothing will be perfect.... until both sides  agree without bias.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2012 5:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 

The hospitals do a HUGE amount of "charity care." It is illegal to  turn 
anyone away from emergency care whether they have the insurance or not  and 
whether they are a citizen or not. The hospital eats some costs but mostly  
passes them on to others who have insurance. The not-for-profit hospitals tend 
 to be better at charity work, but they still need to stay in business. 
It's  hard to insert Jesus into the mix because most hospitals are in business 
to  make money, which is both good and bad. Toss in greed, waste, fraud and 
bureaucracy and there are plenty of factors  to mess with our system. 
 
Don.



 
 

From: Greg  <[email protected]>
To:  [email protected] 
Sent:  Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hospital  Fees



 
 
 
I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3  days plus procedures, 
the bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it  is an HMO, so they 
contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a  better rate. 
Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under  $1,000. Now that’
s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A  percentage of 
$1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non  insured person had 
to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured  persons, who can 
afford it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the  hospitals can 
afford 
to give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just  seams morally 
wrong. The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they 
really follow His word’s  and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s 
more than a discount.  And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that 
bog of  discounts.
 
Greg










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