Ah, the good old days of blood-letting at the barbershop.
 
I did a paper on this in college. If you look at your standard barber pole it 
has white and red stripes [and sometimes blue.] The red represents blood, the 
white bandages and the blue is veins. There's also a basin at the bottom of the 
bowl which is where the blood collected. Leeches were commonly used.
 
Makes you thankful for what we have now!
 

________________________________
 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees
  

 
Don, back in the day, your barber, did the work of today's surgeons, and 
there were no lawsuits.  The operating room often was the barber chair and 
sometimes at the nearest home. Profit wasn't considered as everyone paid for 
their own haircuts and shaves (smiling)  Today, its all so very 
different.  We actually have For-Profit Private Hospitals who turn away 
ambulances to other facilities.  They survive on the gravy of the business 
and self paying customers.  These hospital often look just like regular 
hospitals from the outside.  Many or most of today's modern hospital have 
been taken over by most of the religious groups.  We have the Catholic, 
Baptist, Lutheran, Mormon and several others too.  Today, these hospital 
are rarely charity in the sense we remember and you don't get out without 
paying 
or signing a promise to pay agreement. 
Regarding lawsuits, I believe most have medical merit before an 
administrative judge.  And how much value to we place on permanent 
loss?  I agree with you that nothing will be perfect.... until both sides 
agree without bias. 

Best Wishes 


In a message dated 6/25/2012 5:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes: 

>
>The hospitals do a HUGE amount of "charity care." It is illegal to  turn 
>anyone away from emergency care whether they have the insurance or not  and 
>whether they are a citizen or not. The hospital eats some costs but mostly  
>passes them on to others who have insurance. The not-for-profit hospitals tend 
> to be better at charity work, but they still need to stay in business. It's  
>hard to insert Jesus into the mix because most hospitals are in business to  
>make money, which is both good and bad. Toss in greed, waste, fraud and 
>bureaucracy and there are plenty of factors  to mess with our system.  
>  
>Don. 
>
> 
>
>________________________________
>From: Greg  <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32 PM
>Subject: [QUAD-L] Hospital  Fees
>
>
>I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3  days plus procedures, the 
>bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it  is an HMO, so they 
>contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a  better rate. 
>Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under  $1,000. Now 
>that’s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A  percentage of 
>$1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non  insured person had 
>to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured  persons, who can afford 
>it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the  hospitals can afford to 
>give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just  seams morally wrong. 
>The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they really 
>follow His word’s  and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s more 
>than a discount.  And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that bog of  
>discounts. 
>  
>Greg
>
>

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