Darn, Just for piece of mind I think I will try to do the timeing again, just to be sure.
I will even use the screwdriver down the plug hole just to confirm TDC. Failing that the head will come off and be swopped again. I was really just getting to like driving the car making a few notes of minor jobs to sort out in the future, and I'm now a fully paid up member, so I want to get it sorted now sooner rather than later. Thanks Jim Trevor On 17 Sep, 14:47, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: > Thats correct as long as the 5mm bar is flat on the surface of the end > of the head. > If it's 180 degrees out it's out it's below the surface so unless you > only have a small bit of bar you won't be able to do that. > > I'm sure the second notch is correct, i've not used it for a long time, > when i did i used the wrong one but the engine still ran it was just > down on power. > So i made one of the stops that screws into the front of the block (you > undo the M10 bolt next to the gearbox) and locks the crank at TDC and > used that ever since. > > So it does sound correct. > > Jim > > On 17/09/2010 14:26, Critter wrote: > > > > > Hi Jim, > > > 100% percent is a lot ! > > > I am using a 5mm bar to lock the camshafts and then aligning the crank > > pulley second slot with the ridge on the crank case. Is that not all > > I need to do ?? > > > Now you have me wondering ? > > > Please tell me I'm wrong > > > Thanks > > > Trevor > > > On 17 Sep, 14:12, Jim Hearne<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Are you 100% certain you are getting the timing right ? > >> If you have fuel, a spark and compression then the only thing left is > >> that the timing is wrong. > >> Are you using proper timing tools to set the crank and cam positions ? > >> It's easy to get the cams 180 degrees out otherwise > > >> I can't think of a fault in the head that would affect all cylinders. > >> A zetec will try and start on only 2 cylinders and will run happily on 3. > > >> Jim > > >> On 17/09/2010 13:39, Critter wrote: > > >>> Hi Mark, > >>> yes, I was going to take out the cams and try another compression test > >>> just to try and dismiss the theory about the valves letting by. > >>> I have retimed or rechecked the cam timing a number of times. > >>> thanks > >>> Trevor > >>> On 17 Sep, 13:11, markymark<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> hi trevor are you taking the cams out to do compression test ????? > >>>> you should do the test with the cams in as it will tell you every > >>>> thing is set up right ? > >>>> On 17 Sep, 10:35, Critter<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi All, > >>>>> I started a thread back in December 2009 with regards to my H4 not > >>>>> starting, to re cap. > >>>>> 1.8 Zetec engine, when I bought the car the head had been skimmed and > >>>>> reassembled but would not start. After trying many and various > >>>>> suggestions by the group I finally dis-assembled the engine and found > >>>>> nothing conclusive. > >>>>> Fast forward to July: I obtained another 1.8 zetec engine from EBay, > >>>>> swopped it over and it started first turn of the key, MOT'd and taxed > >>>>> I ran the car for only a week and the head gasket blew ( make note not > >>>>> to buy an engine from Ebay ) I then removed the head and transferred > >>>>> all of the ancillaries from the second head to the original head as > >>>>> that head had been skimmed and looked in good order. > >>>>> Refitted it and now I'm back to the beginning of the original thread > >>>>> i.e. good spark, plenty of fuel, timing is right, but the bugger wont > >>>>> start !!. > >>>>> I have checked compression which is there but lowish, but is even > >>>>> across all cylinders, is it possible that after the head skimming the > >>>>> valves are not seating properly, I was told that the valves had not > >>>>> been touched. > >>>>> Whilst trawling the net "as you do" I hit upon an old statement about > >>>>> someone elses problems with no resolution that said: "Did the guys who > >>>>> skimmed the head recut the valve seat then bed in the valves ?. Bet > >>>>> your bottom dollar the car will start with a bump start but not via > >>>>> the key. Check the compressions on crank, then whilst trying to bump > >>>>> start, you will get next to nothing on crank, but spot on on bump > >>>>> mode. had similar concerns myself. Its worth chekin before the head > >>>>> comes back off!!!!!!!!" > >>>>> I haven't tried bump starting as I believe you can kill the cat with > >>>>> flooding with unburnt fuel, but the previous owner stated when I > >>>>> bought the car that it had run when bumped. I may try removing the > >>>>> cams and checking the compression again? > >>>>> Any other suggestions ? > >>>>> just to recap the only part reused from the original engine is the > >>>>> cylinder head. > >>>>> Apologies for the waffle. > >>>>> Many Thanks > >>>>> Trevor- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. 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