did the later Ka not get a 16v engine? or was it just and 8v ohc variant of the crossflow engine
you can get autoboxes for the crossflow engines in the mk3and 4 fiestas,i nearly had one in the coupe ! yuk darren On Dec 14, 9:35 am, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you are mixing up 2 engines. > The old Ka has only ever had a 1.3l version of the "Kent" crossflow > fitted and later on the 1.6l version in the streetka etc. > These do get very tappy, probably because the tappets are supposed to be > adjusted in the services but don't get done. > > The 1.25 and 1.4 engines you are thinking of are the Yamaha Zetec S 16v > which were used in the Mk4/5 Fiestas. > Also the 1.4 and 1.6 versions were used in the Focus and 1.4 and 1.7 > versions in the Puma. > These do seem to have a bearing issue, just look on ebay. > > Jim > > On 14/12/2010 09:29, [email protected] wrote: > > > Just like to add my congrats to eddie :-) > > > Re: engines , i thought the 1.25 and 1.4engines from the Ka and later > > fiestas had bearing issues at relatively low mileages, even without > > failure they do seem to get very "kent" style tappy quite early in > > their lives. > > what about rover engines? the headgasket issues that plagued the early > > k series seems to have gone quiet and both std type auto and flappy > > paddle cvt gearboxes are available depending on model(see > > gearboxproblems below) > > > Re:gearboxes , sorry tony,you and i would be left wanting as the Ka > > has no auto variant(if they did i would have had to get the missus a > > convertible version for her a long time ago). the late fiestas had the > > odd semi auto option (a manual but well toleranced gearbox with some > > servos and a electrical/hydraulic operated clutch system added > > on)which due to changes in weight and aerodynamics could cause some > > ecu issues , but also had the CVT that the earlier models had(almost > > exaclty the same as the one i have in the coupe),but i have only ever > > seen them on the 1.25 although it was apparently made in 1.4 as well. > > the only other option if space permitted would be the boxes from the > > late focus , a proper auto but quite a bit bigger. > > > Re: other thoughts. > > a while back i did some research together with jim to find an > > alternative rear axle for coupe and 2+2 models. i measured a few > > fiesta mk3,4 and Ka axles.therewere many track variants but all were > > quite a bit wider than what we had.i will have to look the data up but > > i seem to remember it being about 70mm!! oversize. > > i dontknow what thoughts have been made of windscreen but if the > > whole body was being split centre front to rear to widen for the > > windscreen/dash then axle and engine bay width problems would also be > > resolved anyway. > > > Darren > > > ps Eddie if you want to mail me off list with any thoughts or to > > bounce any ideas i would love to assist as best i can > > > On Dec 14, 12:08 am, Eddie<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi there > > >> I have just checked and the Ford Puma was in production from 1997 to > >> 2001 > >> this would be a potential problem as the donor car is already 9 going > >> on 10 years old. This would mean that whilst the donor cars would be > >> cost effective now, they will soon be hard to find and parts > >> intresting to get hold of. Not good. > >> The Fiesta has gone from mk3 1989 to 1997 again now ageing, whilst the > >> mk4 was built 1995 to 2002. The mk 5 took over in 2002 and went all > >> the way to 2008 > >> these are more expensive as they get newer and thus ups the price of > >> the build. Plus the parts changes could cause problems at the design > >> stage on the Quantum shell. > >> The Ka however was built from 1996 to 2008 and that gives builders > >> the option to tailor the age of the donor to their pocket. Also the > >> suspension is near identical to the Fiesta and Puma. I do totally > >> agree that the engines are a pain, as most come with the 1.3 Ltr, > >> however there are some available with 1.6 and 1.7 engines. Work may be > >> needed at the factory to re engineer the looms to work with bigger > >> engines but I will have to find out how the IVA test will be affected > >> by changing the engine over though. > >> With regard to the thought of changing the Ka into a Quantum, the mk2 > >> Fiesta was much better when changed into the Coupe as the fiberglass > >> shell was much more ridgid and thus handled better. > >> If anyone has more thoughts please air them as you input is valuble > >> for me to make the next 2+2 an absolute winner > >> thank you > >> Eddie > >> If anyone has any ideas about engines > >> On Dec 13, 9:57 pm, Waterboy182<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Hi Ed, > >>> My logic behind it all comes from a couple of different angles for > >>> both you and the end user... > >>> In my humble opinion whatever you base future models on needs to have > >>> a fairly modern and potentially powerful engine range, and an already > >>> established reputation as a sports car will add much kudos if > >>> possible. When looking at a potential base for any kit I always > >>> thought commercially one of the most important things is affordable > >>> donor availability for the immediate future, and of course it is handy > >>> if the donor has a tendency to rust making the car practically > >>> worthless! Hence previous succesful kit periods being mostly based on > >>> Cortina's, Escort's and Mini's... with the occasional Spitfire, Rover > >>> etc thrown in! > >>> There are masses of Puma's out there suffering badly from rot, and > >>> regularly suffering from over exuberant driving so donor's are really > >>> easy to come by and even the interiors are reasonably good, especially > >>> if you can find the leather clad ones. The 1.4 powered version would > >>> be cheap to tax and insure yet still pokey, and the 1.7 with it's > >>> uprated gearbox is probably one of the best engines in some ways put > >>> in a Ford in recent years. Obviously the Fiesta has similar heritage > >>> but will be able to offer less in the way of interior 'cred' and the > >>> engines aren't quite as desirable from the MK4 range which the Puma is > >>> based on, hence the Fiesta boys doing Puma conversions... plus of > >>> course you can take on the Puma's excellent reputation as a drivers > >>> car and a proper fwd sports car! Much easier to appeal to potential > >>> new Quantum enthusiasts by selling them a 're-bodied', tuned and > >>> improved Puma than Ka I would think. I also fear 1.6 Ka donors may be > >>> a bit thin on the ground, now and in the future i'm afraid. > >>> On the rwd Jap route, similarly there are 100's of MX5's, import and > >>> UK, rusting away all over the UK but with very durable engines and > >>> superb gearboxes! Spares back up is fantastic, and what with people > >>> constantly crashing them as they are not used to a rwd sports car > >>> there are even plenty of later ones coming up for salvage. > >>> Although i'm not much of a mechanic I am pretty ok on research, sales, > >>> purchasing and marketing, if you ever need a hand or a chat please > >>> drop me a line, would be happy to help in anyway I can. I admire you > >>> for taking on a project/dream as big as this one, and thank you for > >>> saving the parts back up for my missus' H4! > >>> On Dec 12, 11:02 pm, Eddie<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Good points that. > >>>> The Fiesta and Pumas do indeed share many similarities to the Ka. I > >>>> will obviously be considering as many options as possible. The Jap > >>>> route is indeed a nice thought and RWD would be fun, but it is often > >>>> harder to find cheap sources of parts in the scrap yards on these > >>>> cars. > >>>> Eddie > >>>> On Dec 12, 10:23 pm, Waterboy182<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi Ed, > >>>>> I would like to also wish you all the best with the new venture and > >>>>> look forward to seeing the new models however (and I apologise if this > >>>>> is taken the wrong way)... > >>>>> with SVA the way it is would the newer mark fiesta's, or even a Puma, > >>>>> not be better for the future? With the KA only having a 1.3 as > >>>>> standard won't single donor status be tricky unless the original > >>>>> engine is used, and the rest of the components are a little suspect > >>>>> too (brakes, suspension etc) in comparison to the readily available > >>>>> Fiesta or Puma donors? > >>>>> I for one would especially welcome a move towards a jap based Quantum > >>>>> based on the Almera, or maybe a rwd mx5? Just thoughts, probably on my > >>>>> own with the jap route and may be too much work to achieve! > >>>>> I'd especially love to see a new saloon/coupe, minus sunroof and pop > >>>>> up lights! > >>>>> On Dec 12, 5:21 pm, Eddie<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi all > >>>>>> Thank you for the kind words that have been expressed here about my > >>>>>> taking on Quantum. Some of the comments have been quite humbling. > >>>>>> I have given much thought about taking on Quantum, this decision was > >>>>>> not taken lightly. > >>>>>> I must thank John& Rosemary who have been very suportive of my taking > >>>>>> Quantum on. > >>>>>> I wil now have everything I need to support all of the older models > >>>>>> from moulds to spares. > >>>>>> It is important to now progress Quantum, and to that end I have > >>>>>> decided that the 2+2 model will have an update. It is looking likely > >>>>>> that it will be re engineered to run on a Ka donar and also have a > >>>>>> styling update. Don't worry, the styling update will be more evolution > >>>>>> rather than revolution. > >>>>>> I am planning on a factory open day towards the end of June / begining > >>>>>> of July so that you are able to see the progress. > >>>>>> I look foward to working as closely as possible with the QOC and > >>>>>> giving new life to the cars that we love. > >>>>>> Eddie > >>>>>> On Dec 10, 2:18 pm, vince<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> I would just like to add my best wishes to Eddie on his new venture . > >>>>>>> We all know things are "safe" in Eddie's hands. > >>>>>>> Well Done > >>>>>>> Vince [The Merchandising man] > >>>>>>> You know where to come ! > >>>>>>> On Dec 8, 1:59 pm, "Hamish Freeman"<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> How nice for once to see a logical progression such that someone who > >>>>>>>> has made an effort to provide updates and improvements for the > >>>>>>>> Quantum Marque for some time now has actually been able to buy the > >>>>>>>> company - a touch of Victor Kiam? > >>>>>>>> Congratulations and > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. 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