Interesting!
Although diagram is a bit low in resolution.
Will you be at stoneleigh?
I like to see your installation of MS and discuss further, ok?

Regards
Rolf

On 27 apr, 22:11, "Matthew Wastell" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> Nice to know there is another MS user on zetec in a quantum, out there :)
> I'm on MS 1 with V2 software (or something like that) and external EDIS.  
>
> If you take a look at the power curve when you get on the dyno, you will
> probably notice that the bhp will start to drop off just after 6000 rpm.
> So my guess was that there was not too much point to go beyond 6krpm
>
> 6000 is the second from last number on this plot.
>
> I've now set my shift light at around 5500 and I retard the spark after
> 6000.  I've got a feeling that I could not get the hard cut to work, only
> soft cut (hence the spark retard), I've got a feeling this was due to it
> working with EDIS. Are you running a cat?  If so be really careful with
> spark retard as you'll end up sending some unburnt fuel down the exhaust
> pipe.  (Since I removed the twin cats on mine, I now get lovely pops and
> flames if I hit the soft rev limit - purely by accident of course!!)
>
> Mine is a small turbo 2.0, so you may find your power goes on longer than
> mine.  However up that end things move too fast, so an earlier cut out feels
> safer for me and allows me time to actually move my feet and hands to change
> gear.  
>
> I also recall reading some of the information regarding after market
> packages for zetec 2.0/1.8 engines and  I think they said they were good for
> up to 8krpm, but needed all sorts of expensive bolt on shiny bits.
> Depending what you want it for, I'd really not go beyond 6500.
>
> However. I've no idea if the 1.6 is the same as the 2.0 in all but size, so
> please be careful ;-)
>
> If you get rough idling and strange performance low down, then change your
> injector cycles.  Since MS first was released there was a 'bad' map floating
> around and that has then been used for most Zetecs, which tries to make 4
> injections per engine cycle.  It's ok for low power engines on small
> injectors, but when you start playing you'll find you cannot get enough
> injector open time per cycle, so it's much better to drop to 2 injections
> per cycle.  Emissions will suffer to a tiny tiny amount but honestly it
> won't be noticeable to a normal human.  
>
> What AFR targets are you mapping to?  As I'm boosted I'm going to about 11:1
> at full on WOT and boost if memory serves me correctly.  For normal cruise
> I'm on 14:1, purely so that I don't run too hot, however they seem to be
> happy at cruise up to about 17:1 (no long term test evidence though).  I get
> around 40 UK MPGs tootling around with this setup.  I can get it into single
> figures when not being good of course ;-)
>
> Good luck with it all and look forward to hearing more
>
> Matthew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>
> On Behalf Of Hamish Freeman
> Sent: 20 October 2010 18:59
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 1.6 Zetec Redline
>
> As far as working out a safe operating speed, you can use a piston speed of
>
> 10 m/s as a guide - remember that the calculation is engine speed times
> twice the stroke converted to m/s.
>
> Hamish
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "canwood" <[email protected]>
>
> To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:52 PM
>
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 1.6 Zetec Redline
>
> I'm a member in Canada, just north of Toronto.
>
> Two years ago I imported a Plus Two (Q2-064) in only fair condition,
>
> put it up on blocks, and completely disassembled and rebuilt it
>
> including changing to LHD and a swap to a 'new old stock' 1.6 Zetec ,
>
> also from the UK. Thanks to Andy Heaton for helping me with hard-to-
>
> find parts, and Jim Hearne for advice.
>
> I had it 'certified', and on the road earlier this summer.
>
> I'm running it with Megasquirt II v 3.56, Innovate LC1 wideband
>
> processor, Ford EDIS, MS Extra, and Tunerstudio and have it running
>
> fairly well using VE Analyser, but can't get a 'professional' tune. So
>
> I have an appointment on Saturday with a Tuner and Dyno. He wants to
>
> know the Redline for the engine - we didn't get the 1.6 here. Despite
>
> a few hours Googling I have only come up with conflicting numbers
>
> between 6300 and 7000. Does anyone know the safe maximum limit?
>
> Thanks, Bill Woodland
>
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