I have now owned 5 kit cars in all...2 Spartan Roadsters, a Rickman Space 
Ranger, a Marlin Berlinetta and 2 Quanta...a Q plate saloon and an H4. I'm one 
of the guys barnacle describes as one of those " people who want a kit, but 
don't want to bother with the hassle of SVA and registration, or like me they 
want something to rip to bits and rebuild to suit themselves." In fact there 
are 
aspects of the whole thing I couldn't do myself...like painting...and there are 
aspects that I've learnt as I've gone along (like wiring). Each of my cars was 
bought with the idea of to some extent rebuilding to suit me. All have had to 
be 
a second or hobby car...as only the 2nd Spartan was durable enough to use all 
the year round...and that suffered from icing in the carb on a cold morning. 
I believe that more or less every kit car that comes up for sale fits into one 
of two categories. Firstly, the car that has been built to a budget for a quick 
sale, usually built by a semi professional, looks pretty good but possibly 
mechanically suspect after a couple of months,  and Secondly, the "abandoned 
project"..this may be running...may be well loved...but for some reason the 
owner has chosen to part company with it. This will almost certainly be over 
priced...will have minor irritating faults that will be fiddly (or costly) to 
fix, and will certainly be described as being far better than it actually 
is. The Marlin was a first category...looked beautiful...but had a lot of 
little 
things to fix quite soon after I got it.  My H4 is probably the best kit car I 
have owned. Now. It was category 2 when  I bought it, as were my first Spartan, 
my Rickman and my first Quantum. In each case, I sold a better car than I had 
bought..and probably lost money. The H4 has cost quite a lot to get into the 
state it's now in....but it's still not quite as I want it....so I will 
continue....it's my hobby...my fishing rod / shot gun / boat / garden etc. and 
as such, is always going to be worth more to me than the price I might get for 
it if I put it up for sale. Barnacle is right when he points out the confusion 
between value and cost. I would like a decent Quantum Saloon / Coupe....but I 
don't want a CVH powered one, mine must have a Zetec engine with power steering 
and decent brakes....so when I go looking, I'll be weighing up the purchase 
cost 
against the added cost of getting it into the condition I want and to the 
specification I want as well. 
Isn't that what we kit car people do? 
Bill Jackson


________________________________
From: barnacle <[email protected]>
To: Quantum Owners Group <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 27 June, 2011 19:46:12
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum 2nd hand values

It's little to do I think with the perceived value - it's that there
are two markets.

The people that want a slashtop for the summer are looking mostly at a
cheap MX5 or MGB or one or two others - available for a grand or so,
and throw it away in six months.

Then there are people who want a kit, but don't want to bother with
the hassle of SVA and registration, or like me they want something to
rip to bits and rebuild to suit themselves.

Both parties want something cheap and largely cheerful.

Those who have built a kit knows how much work and expense has gone
into it - but the only people who might be prepared to spend that sort
of money are often equally happy to spend it on a new kit and do it
themselves.

C But they're never going to do that when open market prices
are used as the value.

Neil



On Jun 26, 6:25 pm, Jim Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> The problem with any kit sports car value is that you can buy an MGF
> or Mazda MX5 for less than £1000. Admittedly the Quantum is far better
> than the MG, but the MG has the name. JimT
>
> On Jun 25, 12:49 pm, "Susan and Martin Scott"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There's a simple solution.......... All club members (space and funds 
>permitting) buy up all the low priced Q's for sale on internet. Then we all 
>ask 
>a lot more for them with the added bonus that if any do sell then we make a 
>healthy profit!
> > Reminds me of the housing market, which has only in the last few years 
> > crept 
>down.
>
> > Seriously though, I'm convinced there is a huge difference between cars 
>offered cheaply for sale, and good quality members cars which are not offered 
>for sale.

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