I bought my 2+2 because i was feed up with my Ford based projects going rusty. And the 2+2 had a big enough boot to put PC monitors in which i used to repair at the time.

Jim


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From: "Susan and Martin Scott" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:56 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum selling prices.

That's how I caught the bug - A front cover of Car Mechanics saying "Turn this into this" with photos of the Ford Escort Mk1 and finished Dutton Melos. Have to hand it to Mr D, he or his marketing people knew how to get a result. It was a similar build to those which appear in the kit mags, spread over a few issues, but in a mainstream mag. Stourbridge Q were also very good at getting free? mention in the editorials of the kit mags, with some mention nearly every month - I recall a photo showing Mark and familly with all the kit for a french camping holiday in the boot of the 2+2

----- Original Message ----- From: "jin" <[email protected]>
To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:34 AM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum selling prices.


All valid comments on the more inferior kits, it’s a shame the Quantum
is a kit at all and being labelled with that potential stigma which it
doesn’t deserve (more against older mainstream kits though)
To that end though I think if the "new Quantum’s" are going to be
advertised in the press, like car mags etc they would benefit from
more mainstream mags than kit car mags, lets face it most if not all
"kit car people" know of Quantum’s existence and they either tick
their boxes or they are not as extreme as such vehicles as the MEV
sonic7s / Dax cobras etc whereas the Quantum’s are in that limbo of
being not as in yer face as some kits but at the same time looking and
driving more pleasing that mainstream cars, what im getting at is in
this day and age being able to have a car that is practical - good
looking - easy to maintain - cheap to maintain and more importantly in
today’s climate only peanuts to insure, (im surprised more emphasis is
not put on that as im sure it would sell kits by itself), and the
right age donor engine choice giving out very low CO2 emissions would
surly offer a car that pays for itself?
ok so a 2 page spread in Top gear magazine is probably unrealistic but
some of the more "hands on" mags could be a useful advertising tool,
such as Practical classics - Practical performance car - Car mechanics
etc, these are the kind of publications where somebody is more likely
(in my opinion) to open it up and be drawn to a picture of a cute,
classically styled sports car - looks familiar but they are not sure?
- yet its being offered as a new kit - and it’s cheap to run and very
cheap to insure.....
again, just my thoughts

have a nice day all
On Jul 17, 10:59 pm, "jon jackson" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi again yes inferior is a very good word to use when refering to some other
kit cars.
I went to look at my Quantum Turbo with the intention of taking the engine and putting it in my Robin Hood S7 and putting an XR2 engine in the Quantum but when I drove and looked closely into the two cars I needed a couple of
seconds to decide that the Hood moves on to the next owner.
The 2+2 is a great little car and with one or two upgrades can be made into a winter car too. My heater roasts my legs and does not touch the demisting
screen grr must fix.
I think that it will stay with me too.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan and Martin Scott"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum selling prices.

Again, all valid remarks. I remember building my first kit car (a Dutton
Melos) as it was a cheaper, non rusting alternative in the days when used
cars (and new of course) were a lot more expensive in real terms, and fuel
only 50p a gallon (oops showing my age!). It's really irritating to see a
Dutton advertised for a higher price than a Quantum though, as the D was
very much an inferior product!
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Clews" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum selling prices.

I too have built a Quantum 2+2 and an impractical kit car (Blackjack
Avion) with no roof or screen and just a cubby hole for carriage. But
I would not sell either of them because I have built them and even now
(after over 10 years of Quantum and 4 years of Avion use ) I get a
zing out of driving either of them. They become family pets in
addition to transport. Yes it's the Avion that people keep making me
offers to buy on the street or follow me home just to find out what it
is. But it's the Q I drive to work each day summer or winter or take
to London on the motorway. I will not part with either of them. Kit
cars 1, Normal cars 0 as far as I am concerned. If I cannot drive
them or convert them to something that can be driven in future they
will become 'gate-guardians' or garden ornaments!

Guess which one my wife drives? Yes the Q. (Sometimes you can have
too much interest) But the basic equation we have to fill is; a hobby
that also doubles as a necessity. (transport) So the Q scores highly
on that basis. Win - Win. To take that further, given the costs of
the tax, insurance and maintenance I can run these two kits cars
cheaper than one ordinary car. (QOC what a great insurance deal!) So
why not celebrate the Q's for what they can offer and accept the
rest? If most people cannot see the benefit maybe we need to educate
them. I still think prices are lower than they should be because the
general public don't understand what Q's offer. e.g my Son has run a
Q Coupe for the last five years and even now the whole years running
cost for the Q are less than just the insurance for a VW Polo at age 26!

Perception depends on your frame of reference.

Derek

On 16 Jul 2011, at 23:16, jon jackson wrote:

> Sorry folks but I can see easily why our cars are depressed in value..
> They are simply too much like a mass produced car, in as much as they > are > practical and the interior is just like a factory Ford. They just do > not
> have that wow factor that some kit cars do.
> Indeed we looked at a Toyota MR2 and there is nowhere to put luggage or
> any short trip passenger. The boot of my 2+2 on the other hand can take > a > freshly run over deer to feed a family of four for a month and have > room
> left over for a spare wheel.
> I am busy building a tubular framed sevenesque MX5 turbo car with no
> heater windscreen or any other usefull features apart from sheer
> performance, what car will I keep when its finished?
> Flippantly yours Jon
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jin" <[email protected]>
> To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:00 PM
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Quantum selling prices.

> I couldn�t agree more Eddie
> ive often looked at my own and other members cars and am amazed at how
> good they look for the age, this is what I believe is one of the major
> selling point for our cars - new or old.
> i think the next promotional event you do at the new factory should /
> could include signs or plaques for each car stating how old it is
> since build, to demonstrate just how well they last, mine is 16 years
> old now and doesn�t look much over 6 years old and non Quantum people
> often don�t believe me

> Just a thought

> On Jul 26, 2:52 pm, Eddie <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Mathew

>> Wow I know that car.

>> It was a freind of mine who bought that car and he asked me to collect
>> it with him. I do know that he used a de humidifier inside it to dry
>> it out and vaguely remember him saying that there was not much work to
>> do in order to return it to the road. I therefor know that the current
>> owner is not the one who paid �100 for it. Unfortunately I do not
>> actually know what he paid for it.
>> Got to say though, it did not look quite this good. But looking at the
>> pictures of it now, does it not show that these cars are so resilient
>> to being uncared for, that even a poor condition car has the potential
>> to be a good car in the right hands. That's the beauty of a Fiberglass
>> car and that's why I think they are worth more than the metal ones.

>> Eddie

>> On Jul 26, 10:53 am, MatthewG <[email protected]> wrote:

>> > > The Quantum on EBay to be fair is being priced about right. The
>> other
>> > > ones on there for a few hundred quid is an insult to these cars.

>> > I did think it was very brave of the seller to put a link at the
>> end
>> > of his ebay listing to a thread listing the car's history.
>> > Here's the edited highlights of the last post:

>> > "...the car was parked up and remained undriven not for 1 yr but
>> 4.5
>> > and when we got the garage door open the windows on the car were
>> open
>> > and the garage roof leaked ,by damp she actually meant 3 inches of
>> > water in the footwells!"

>> > and:

>> > "...she offered me the car for �100 so we freed the brakes ,loaded
>> > onto the tailer and drove 200 miles home. The car took 4 weeks
>> with a
>> > dehumidifier to dry"

>> > I'm sure he's done a lot of remedial work since but to go from
>> �100 up
>> > to �3100 with that kind of history must be good news for the rest
>> of
>> > us.

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