No practical advice to add, since I replaced all the wiring forwards
of the driver's seatback, but the sight of that rat's nest reminded me
of the mess that was in mine when I bought it. Perhaps the same bloke
'wired' it...
Neil
On Feb 16, 5:57 pm, Chris H <[email protected]> wrote:
> If I understand correctly I attach the striped (Cathode) end of each
> diode together and then into the relay?
> Out of interest how do your lights on your 2+2 work?
> Now you've mention it I can see what you mean. While i'm re-wiring the
> I might just do that
> Chris
> On Feb 16, 1:19 pm, "Jim Hearne" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yes, tap into the main beam and dipped beam wires to one headlight
> > and
> > connect each to the non-banded end (Anode) of one of the diodes.
> > Join the striped end (Cathode) of the diodes together and take a wire
> > from
> > there to the flap relay coil (the other side of the relay coil is
> > earthed).
> > The diodes mean the the flaps will open if either the main beam or
> > the
> > dipped beam is on, you need the diodes to keep the circuits separate,
> > they
> > will only let power flow from the headlight wire into the relay, not
> > back
> > into the other circuit.
> > Think of them as one way valves for water, or tyre valves, if you
> > fitted 2
> > valves onto a tyre you could use either of them to blow up the tyre.
> > If your sidelights are next to the indicators you don't need the
> > flaps to
> > open on sidelights, just when the headlights are on.
> > The observant amongst you may have realised that the headlights have
> > separate feeds for each side of the car but the flap motor relay is
> > feed
> > from only one side.
> > If the headlight fuse goes for the side of the car that the flap
> > motor relay
> > is connected to then the flaps will close and you won't be able to
> > see much.
> > If you are worried about this then fit 1 more diode from the other
> > dipped
> > (and another diode from the main if you are really worried) beam
> > circuits on
> > the car.
> > Jim
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:09 PM
> > To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 front wiring
> > > I do have a local store, I'll go down and have a look tomorrow.
> > > The sidelights in the headlights are not used.
> > > So would I wire the diodes in the dipped and main beam from the
> > > headlights?
> > > Do the sidelights next to the indicator effect the operation of the
> > > headlight flaps?
> > > Chris
> > > On Feb 16, 12:50 pm, "Jim Hearne" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> You could use these, they should work but they are very much
> > >> overkill for
> > >> the purpose they have.
> > >> You just need a couple of 1N5400 series diodes, these come in a
> > >> variety
> > >> of
> > >> voltage ratings but they start at 50 volts so you can use any of
> > >> them,
> > >> 1N5400, 1N5401 etc etc
> > >> Maplins sell them if you have a local shop.
> > >> I think the original build manual used the smaller 1N4000 series
> > >> diodes
> > >> but
> > >> i prefer the thicker leads on the 1N5400 diodes for inline wiring
> > >> in
> > >> cars.
> > >> Preferably solder them inline and cover with adhesive heatshrink.
> > >> The headlight flap relay is often mounted there.
> > >> Or you can mount it and the diodes inside behind the fusebox and
> > >> just
> > >> take
> > >> the wires for the flap motor out through the engine bay to the
> > >> flap
> > >> motor.
> > >> If you use the sidelights in the headlights, or have the Dim Dip
> > >> headlight
> > >> system then you need to connect the diodes to the main beam
> > >> headlight and
> > >> sidelight circuits, otherwise use the main beam and dipped beam
> > >> headlight
> > >> circuits.
> > >> Nice use of all red wire by the builder there.
> > >> My brother wanted me to make a complete new wiring loom for his VW
> > >> beetle
> > >> just using one colour wire because it would look cool.
> > >> He seemed surprised when i said no !
> > >> Jim
> > >> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:34 PM
> > >> To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]>
> > >> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 front wiring
> > >> > Hi Jim
> > >> > That makes sense now. The headlight flaps currently do not work
> > >> > as the
> > >> > previous owner disconnected them. So hence re-wiring the front.
> > >> > Would it be best to use these rectifier's or replace them with
> > >> > the
> > >> > diodes that where supposed to be there?
> > >> > Also is the relay for the headlight flap normally mounted on the
> > >> > nearside headlight pod
> > >> >http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o519/sonich1/09022012198.jpg
> > >> > as I have also one on the nearside wheel arch, near the battery,
> > >> > but i
> > >> > believe this is an extra set of driving lights
> > >> >http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o519/sonich1/09022012198.jpg
> > >> > Cheers
> > >> > Chris
> > >> > On Feb 16, 9:27 am, "Jim Hearne" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> Hi Chris,
> > >> >> There are 2 extra diodes on a 2+2 added to operated the
> > >> >> headlight flap
> > >> >> relay.
> > >> >> Normally they are much smaller than this but maybe somebody
> > >> >> decided to
> > >> >> get
> > >> >> industrial.
> > >> >> There will be one connected between the main beam headlight and
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> relay
> > >> >> coil and another one connected between the dipped beam (or
> > >> >> sidelight)
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> the relay coil.
> > >> >> Jim
> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:23 PM
> > >> >> To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]>
> > >> >> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 front wiring
> > >> >> > Hi all
> > >> >> > I've decided to re-wire the front of my 2+2 as it is a mess.
> > >> >> > But I
> > >> >> > have noticed that in the wiring they are 2 rectifier's.
> > >> >> >http://s1145.photobucket.com/albums/o519/sonich1/?action=viewt...
> > >> >> >http://s1145.photobucket.com/albums/o519/sonich1/?action=viewt...
> > >> >> >http://s1145.photobucket.com/albums/o519/sonich1/?action=viewt...
> > >> >> >http://s1145.photobucket.com/albums/o519/sonich1/?action=viewt...
> > >> >> > My question is do I need these and what will happen if I take
> > >> >> > them
> > >> >> > out?
> > >> >> > Does anybody else have these on their Quantum's?
> > >> >> > Cheers
> > >> >> > Chris H
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