Wow I was not aware of a 4x4 Mondeo and my old MK1 2litre SI has just passed its 5th MOT with no work needed while in my care, I paid just £200 for it and have only replaced tyres bulbs and brakes in the last 5 years. It has traction control ABS and heated front screen. Its the best banger I have had, and my daughter hates it cos she sells Mercs and Beemers and when we visit she hates it in the drive LOL.
Jon 2+2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Hearne To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Six Speed Gaerbox I even had a Ford parts guy try and tell me there was no such thing as a 4x4 Mondeo, until he looked on the computer. I wouldn't say they are impossible to find, there usually seem to be one on Ebay. I am scrapping one of mine, at the moment it's being a mobile shed. I am expecting to have to make a custom fuel tank, or more likely, 2, one each side of the probe. The Mondeo 4x4 has a fuel tank with a tunnel down the middle and a fuel pump and sender in each side. Jim On 13/01/2013 19:27, Andrew Owen wrote: Hi Jim I was aware of the MK1 Mondeo 4x4, my brother-in-law used to own one a number of years ago, hardly anyone at the time would believe that it was a 4x4 until they took a quick look at the rear axle. What is a bit frustrating is that I had the car in my front garden for about many months and wasn't interested in it, the gearbox, driveshafts, propshaft, diff etc, were all absolutely fine, he eventually sold it for scrap. I had no idea that many years later it would be of interest to me and I understand they are now also almost impossible to find, This is what caused me to think of the Jaguar MTX box etc.with an st170 engine, I will have to do some more digging on this to satisfy my curiosity. I understand that the Jaguar rear diff/suspension is connected to a subframe which is very similar to the MK3 Mondeo estate. I looked at my H4 today, assuming that a propshaft would at the same height as the centre of the wheel hubs it would be quite a bit above the height of the floor and also would bisect the fuel tank. Clearly the rear sub-frame etc, etc. would need to be narrowed, and the H4 chassis modified to give the subrame something to mount onto. In other words not for the faint hearted! I think I will keep with just putting in a 2 liter zetec for now! Regards Andrew . On 13 January 2013 17:04, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Andrew, No, the Mk1 Mondeo 4x4 MTX75 gearbox (yes, they did make one, i own 2 off them). I had to machine away some sections of the aluminium section of the sump, build up others with weld and make a few new holes but the gearbox does now mate with the engine and the transfer box fits on the back of the engine (uses the same holes as the driveshaft support bracket on the 2wd engine. That is as far as i got 5 years ago at which point i acquired a girlfriend, sold my house, bought a new house and am still getting things sorted. Eventually, i will get back to the H4x4 project. The current plan is to use the standard Mk3 Fiesta front suspension but narrow the complete mondeo rear suspension for the rear. The diff and the suspension all bolt to a subframe on the Mondeo. The tunnel will have to be made a lot larger. Jim On 12/01/2013 20:42, Andrew Owen wrote: Hi Jim I assume you have gone for Jaguar X Type 4x4 gearbox fitted to a Focus st170 engine? I have often wondered if this engine and gearbox combination would actually fit one another, but I assumed there must be a good possibility because I think its essentially an MTX gearbox and the st170 engine is a Zetec. My H4 is currently fitted with a 1.6 Zetec engine and IB5 gearbox, but I am going to change this for a 2.0 Zetec and an RS Turbo series 2 gearbox with an LSD, I don't think my insurers, or indeed me, would be happy with anything more than this for my 18 year old son. If we keep the H4 for a few years I would be tempted to go for a turbocharged Zetec and a 4x4 set up, but I would have no idea how to get the propshaft clearance, or deal with the rear suspension, diff mounting etc! Cheers Andrew On 11 January 2013 19:25, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: Very probably, yes. But i wanted 4wd as well. Jim On 11/01/2013 18:40, george wrote: Hi Jim So if the gearbox from a st170 goes in could you not use the engine as well ? just a silly thought?. On Jan 11, 6:38 pm, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: Somebody on here was doing that conversion but i forget who at the moment. Some issues with the oil filter housing hitting the steering rack i seem to remember Jim On 11/01/2013 18:35, george wrote: Hi Jim Thanks for that should have waited till I had some sleep might have got the spelling right lol... How about the TDCi engine as I intend to convert one of my saloons if I can.. George. On Jan 11, 6:29 pm, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: Do you mean one from a Focus ST170 or one of the later MTX75 gearboxes ? The ST170 gearbox was made by Getrag, i have one i took off a ST170 engine so i could made the engine to a MTX75 4x4 gearbox. The ST170 gearbox is actually quite short as it's got 3 shafts (with 3 gears on each) not the normal 2 (with 5 or 6 gears on). It should bolt onto the Zetec block with no problems except some of the lower gearbox to sump holes may not line up. It will depend if it is a silver top or blacktop Zetec, the blacktop should match better. It does use unique driveshaft splines and joints so you will need to get some custom driveshafts made. And, of course you won't have the Mk2/3 Fiesta type mounting locations on the gearbox so those will need to replace. Also, the gearchange is cable but as long as you've got the matching linkage it should be too bad. I may put the one i have in the 2+2 at some point. Jim Jim On 11/01/2013 15:55, george wrote: Anyone know if you can fit a six speed gearbox in a saloon when you convert to a Zetec 2.0l. Just thought I'd ask as you never know... ----- No virus found in this message. 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