Great info as always Matthew. You and Jim put a lot of work into the car and it is pretty unique. I've gone with XR2 front springs and 1100 rears which has raised it slightly. Callum will testify that the handling is pretty damn good. I thinks the mileage is around 52k so it's done a few miles in the last couple of years, including a trip to France. I get the feeling you are missing the little Q?
Sent from my iPad > On 13 Apr 2017, at 11:37, Matthew Wastell <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's probably worth adding if you speak to a decent suspension place or try > to calculate everything yourself, the 2+2 weighs around 900 KG which I think > is slightly more than an XR2. At least mine weighed 880kg with no carpet and > several other bits not yet installed. I can't remember the front rear bias > now. > > On 13 Apr 2017, at 00:28, calum mcpherson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for input Mathew, lot of good info there. I've got front 'Q' red >> springs from Bob , now refurbed, to go on my car leaving the gas front >> struts on which are fairly new. Ordered new gas rears and will sort out rear >> springs to suit. Interesting your comment re. the rear shock extenders, >> haven't had shocks off yet to confirm if they are fitted, but checked rear >> turret height in Bobs boot, and is same as mine 🤔. Like the idea of XR2 rear >> springs as seems really soft/bouncy & on stilts at present. As for power in >> Bobs car, was awesome, but as my 23 yr old also drives mine, far too fast >> lol. Thanks again for input. Calum. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 12 Apr 2017, at 23:57, Matthew Wastell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The setup is standard length XR2 rear springs, quantum red front springs, >>> standard length xr2 Gaz adjustable damping dampers. I had to order the Gaz >>> dampers specially as they are otherwise for lowered vehicles so wouldn't >>> have the right range of travel. There are no extensions on the suspension >>> and it's the older setup (I think even before they added the extensions). >>> In my opinion it's the right height, later 2+2s to quote Mark 'look like >>> they are on stilts" >>> >>> I dialled up the damping, which is really a bodge as it needed slightly >>> stiffer springs in my opinion (especially at the front) The only other >>> thing that is ideally needed in that setup is increased height bump stops >>> at the rear as the tyres will actually touch the rear wheel arches in >>> extreme circumstances. >>> >>> I checked all angles at that height and everything was as close to ideal >>> values as could be. If it was 2" higher it would certainly affect at least >>> one of the front wheels' angles. I don't think rear is affected as solid >>> axles. >>> >>> Too much power?! Naaaaaah. ;-). I'm really quite impressed at that engine, >>> it's a regular 2.0 zetec with a decomp plate of 3mm. I bought the decomp >>> plate but then decided to go the whole forged pistons route (sadly that was >>> one of the many short lived engines in the car). The decomp plate + Mondeo >>> 2.0 auto was a quick fix to get me to Ireland. >>> >>> What mileage is it on now Bob? >>> >>> M >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 Apr 2017, at 21:43, 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Matthew gave me a HUGE pile of receipts when I bought the car. I'm sure >>>> the GAZ set of dampers was around £450 from Burton Power. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 12 Apr 2017, at 19:58, calum mcpherson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for reply Jim,going to check what springs are on rear when removed >>>>> , but want to upgrade shocks anyway to ensure they are operating properly >>>>> (old one's do look well worn, though not leaking) , thinking gas ones >>>>> rather than oil as fronts are gas struts, always used gas rather than air >>>>> when upgrading. >>>>> >>>>> So to clarify all I am doing is changing rear shocks at present , then >>>>> will see how it all sits, and will leave in (if they are indeed there) >>>>> the extenders till I change rear springs (if I go for shorter ones). >>>>> >>>>> Was out for a run with Bob Craig in his 2+2 at the weekend , quite a >>>>> beast , well impressed with the whole package , particularly how solid >>>>> and planted it all felt,the power was too much tbh for my needs though >>>>> was very impressive. >>>>> >>>>> I would settle for the ride and solid feel of Bob's tbh , although I do >>>>> realise he has expensive Gaz adjustable struts & shocks fitted , sadly >>>>> out of my budget. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Calum. >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on >>>>> behalf of Jim Hearne <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: 12 April 2017 19:16:30 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Lowering springs for my 2+2. >>>>> >>>>> Don't remove the shock extender on the rear until (if) you fit shorter >>>>> rear springs. >>>>> If you are just changing the shocks with the existing springs then swap >>>>> the extender from the old shocks to the new. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/04/2017 18:38, calum mcpherson wrote: >>>>>> Decided to upgrade rear shocks (as looking a bit tired), fronts have >>>>>> been upgraded to Gas Struts and was thinking same for rear, looking at >>>>>> Kayaba Gas ones, as seem reasonable value for money. >>>>>> I want to upgrade these to make sure all is fine, then will measure all >>>>>> springs and see where we are at. Managed to source a set of 'Quantum Red >>>>>> front springs (thanks to Bob Craig) which have been refurbed to go on >>>>>> front, will then look at rear. >>>>>> I presume fitting the Gas type to rear wont cause any issue's with >>>>>> removing the shock extender ? (as recommended by Jim Hearne) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all for input. >>>>>> >>>>>> Calum. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 21:52:01 UTC+1, calum mcpherson wrote: >>>>>>> I've recently changed my wheels 15" with 195-50-15 tyres to the correct >>>>>>> set up 14" with 185-55-14, and my 2+2 looks like a Land Rover. >>>>>>> I was going to change springs anyway, but now have brought this job >>>>>>> forward as not looking as I want. >>>>>>> I understand that the manual states 'Quantum red springs' for front and >>>>>>> Fiesta mk2 1100 springs for rear, however when looking at lowering >>>>>>> springs, most seem to be a standardised Fiesta mk2 set up , most >>>>>>> covering full range excluding XR2 !!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone got any experience with lowering springs , any recommendations >>>>>>> would be great . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Car has std. 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