It’s not quite true that making a car causes more emissions than running one. 
Assuming a 100k life manufacture is somewhere 20-30% of the life emissions.  Of 
course life is down to use.  Search for the toyota study if you are interested. 
Plenty of people have also corroborated the maths and assumptions.

Electric is the future and there are more and more conversion solutions around 
the corner.   Doesn’t help Hans right now however you aren’t going to change 
these policies.  So you need to find a solution for yourself.

As to 2 mile school run, why not cycle?  ;-)

Boats will be wind powered. It’s the future, ahem.



On 11 May 2019, at 10:11, Darren Siepka 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

As nice as the electric power idea is the cost is to be honest prohibitive!
I costed converting one of our 2+2 to use for the school run ( 4mile round trip 
twice a day!) And even that would have a long break even time!  :-(
As Derek says the time to get political may be coming! These politicians make 
these policies but just assume we all want to follow along and can afford to do 
so!!!!!
Best regards
Darren


On Sat, 11 May 2019, 09:54 Derek Clews, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Hans,

That is terrible.  Kit cars are enthusiast cars and the interest keeps 
engineering skills alive.  I thought recycling cars and their parts was very 
green.  There is more energy consumed in making than running a car.  Is there 
no exemption you can apply for?  If not maybe you need to get political and 
make one happen.  There are classic car dealers and owners in holland (and 
Europe generally) so it may be time to get active withe the government.  It has 
to be an issue with a lot of people if you cast the net wide enough.

Otherwise you could get an out of town location for the cars and move them out. 
 But I can see that may not be possible.  Electric may be your best bet.  Some 
in the QOC are trying electric conversions, so they are best placed to tell you 
about that.  The usual 'tin box route' costs a fortune to own as you say.

Are all the boats going electric as well?

ATB

Derek




On 11 May 2019, at 00:12, Hans Defauwes 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:.

I enjoy & drive QSC ‘s for more than 25 years . . .

I own a red Coupe (ex Eddy’s car) and a white LHD 2+2 (ex demonstrator)  but 
for how long ??
I have lots of spare/new service  parts so I can service/fix them on the spot 
when needed.

They never saw a garage form the inside. I build/service/maintain them myself 
incl. engine rebuilds.

I have saved some money to spray and refurbish the coupe and get the 2+2 out of 
storage (recent engine rebuild) and fix the damaged sill/door this summer.

But this plan goes down the drain

Thanks to the Left “green” Amsterdam municipality I soon can’t drive to my 
workshop with my QSC’s
They ban any car/diesel less than Euro4 emissions beginning 2020, banning non 
electric commercial van’s & mopeds by 2025 and any combustion engine vehicle by 
2030.
Other cities want to follow this path to ban combustion vehicles.

How to go to work and maintain the QSC’s – if I can’t drive to my workshop.

1 convert to Electric – very expensive & low range

2 Convert the QSC logbook to Euro6 with a 1.0 Ecoboost engine
The Dutch RDW = DVLA is very reluctant with information on how to change the 
logbook to Euro6.
It seems I need to do an expensive individual emission and safety test by TNO 
(applied scientific research).
Need a  very recent low milage/new 1.0 Ecoboost donor car for the engine, 
gearbox, wire loom etc. modify driveshaft's, etc. etc.
Probably need some re-engineering work. This costs much more than I saved so far

3 buy a tin car <wlEmoticon-sadsmile[1].png>
I hate rust <wlEmoticon-auto[1].png>

After 25+ years my QSC hobby ends unexpected and far to early.

There is a very small kit car market in The Netherlands. So selling my QSC’s 
will be difficult.
In the current state, both need body work, they will not be worth very much.
The car dismantling company’s (scrap heap) don't want them due to the fiber body
I can sell the spare parts to ford lovers – there are less than 80 registered 
fiesta MK2 XR2 left in The Netherlands . . .

Hans

ps who knows I might win the lottery









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