Funny you suggest that as it was one idea a friend suggested when I looked
at the conversion.
He suggested using a rear axle from a gwiz for sub 5 mile or so hops or in
traffic shunting, just using the original ice up front at other times or to
charge the battery's extra(I already have a 280a alternator fitted due to
the electric heater system booster)

On Sat, 11 May 2019, 14:49 michaelhughes7a via Quantum Owners Group, <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Until the point when i.c. engines are banned in Amsterdam it seems
> possible that LPG might be the easiest solution to the problem faced by
> Hans.
>
> In considering electric propulsion has the possibility of using  electric
> power to the rear wheels, with a range suited only to inner city use, been
> overlooked.  With recharging from the mains at home and at the
> office/workshop and the use of drive systems already developed for motor
> scooters or motorbikes costs might be relatively low.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Siepka <[email protected]>
> To: quantumowners <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, 11 May 2019 10:11
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Driving QSC for 25 years . . .
>
> As nice as the electric power idea is the cost is to be honest
> prohibitive!
> I costed converting one of our 2+2 to use for the school run ( 4mile round
> trip twice a day!) And even that would have a long break even time!  :-(
> As Derek says the time to get political may be coming! These politicians
> make these policies but just assume we all want to follow along and can
> afford to do so!!!!!
> Best regards
> Darren
>
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019, 09:54 Derek Clews, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> That is terrible.  Kit cars are enthusiast cars and the interest keeps
> engineering skills alive.  I thought recycling cars and their parts was
> very green.  There is more energy consumed in making than running a car.
> Is there no exemption you can apply for?  If not maybe you need to get
> political and make one happen.  There are classic car dealers and owners in
> holland (and Europe generally) so it may be time to get active withe the
> government.  It has to be an issue with a lot of people if you cast the net
> wide enough.
>
> Otherwise you could get an out of town location for the cars and move them
> out.  But I can see that may not be possible.  Electric may be your best
> bet.  Some in the QOC are trying electric conversions, so they are best
> placed to tell you about that.  The usual 'tin box route' costs a fortune
> to own as you say.
>
> Are all the boats going electric as well?
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
> On 11 May 2019, at 00:12, Hans Defauwes <[email protected]> wrote:.
>
> I enjoy & drive QSC ‘s for more than 25 years . . .
>
> I own a red Coupe (ex Eddy’s car) and a white LHD 2+2 (ex demonstrator)
> but for how long ??
> I have lots of spare/new service  parts so I can service/fix them on the
> spot when needed.
>
> They never saw a garage form the inside. I build/service/maintain them
> myself incl. engine rebuilds.
>
> I have saved some money to spray and refurbish the coupe and get the 2+2
> out of storage (recent engine rebuild) and fix the damaged sill/door this
> summer.
>
> But this plan goes down the drain
>
> Thanks to the Left “green” Amsterdam municipality I soon can’t drive to my
> workshop with my QSC’s
> They ban any car/diesel less than Euro4 emissions beginning 2020, banning
> non electric commercial van’s & mopeds by 2025 and any combustion engine
> vehicle by 2030.
> Other cities want to follow this path to ban combustion vehicles.
>
> How to go to work and maintain the QSC’s – if I can’t drive to my workshop.
>
> 1 convert to Electric – very expensive & low range
>
> 2 Convert the QSC logbook to Euro6 with a 1.0 Ecoboost engine
> The Dutch RDW = DVLA is very reluctant with information on how to change
> the logbook to Euro6.
> It seems I need to do an expensive individual emission and safety test by
> TNO (applied scientific research).
> Need a  very recent low milage/new 1.0 Ecoboost donor car for the engine,
> gearbox, wire loom etc. modify driveshaft's, etc. etc.
> Probably need some re-engineering work. This costs much more than I saved
> so far
>
> 3 buy a tin car <wlEmoticon-sadsmile[1].png>
> I hate rust <wlEmoticon-auto[1].png>
>
> After 25+ years my QSC hobby ends unexpected and far to early.
>
> There is a very small kit car market in The Netherlands. So selling my
> QSC’s will be difficult.
> In the current state, both need body work, they will not be worth very
> much.
> The car dismantling company’s (scrap heap) don't want them due to the
> fiber body
> I can sell the spare parts to ford lovers – there are less than 80
> registered fiesta MK2 XR2 left in The Netherlands . . .
>
> Hans
>
> ps who knows I might win the lottery
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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