Hi
I've just checked out the engine bay and there are two mounts on the
offside. The rear one is pretty hard to see but I can see the support
coming up to meet a bracket which I assume is bolted to the block. The
front one is very easy to see and is in very good condition. The
gearbox housing has two, one at the very front, the other at the rear,
both very substantial and well bolted down. I know the rubbers are
good because I had them checked - there is an optical illusion in the
H4 which makes it look as though the engine is not level as though it
had sunk at the gearbox end. It was checked, and it is level with no
sign of softness in the mounts.
However someone has felt it necessary at some time to tie the engine
down tighter and the work looks good aside from the misalignment.
Given all the mounts are present and apparently correct, I assume it's
perfectly safe to remove the offending item and see how it all
behaves. If it jerks, I can rebuild the strut and remove the offset.
I wonder though if a shock absorber there might be more useful, but
that would not stop the kind of movement that might stress the exhaust
for example.
Thanks for the help so far, further advice appreciated.
Regards
Julian Coleman
City Audio Services
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Jim Hearne" <[email protected]>
To:
"Julian Coleman" <[email protected]>
Cc:
Sent:
Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:38:55 +0100
Subject:
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 top engine stay/mount and 2L hoses
100% Not a Ford part and i'm pretty sure it wasn't a Quantum part
either.
With the correct Zetec mountings there is no need for a strut there.
Jim
On 22/07/2019 18:25, Julian Coleman wrote:
Hi
The offending item is the strut shown here between the brake
fluid reservoir and the inlet manifold, it's attached to the
engine and the brace bar between the suspension turrets. (This
is before it broke.) If you have one I'm interested.
Looking at the welds and the paint, I suspect this is a
Quantum part, the fixings do not look like an aftermarket
bodge. But having said that, it might have been one that was
well done
Regards
Julian Coleman
City Audio Services
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From:
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To:
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Sent:
Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:49:50 +0100
Subject:
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 top engine stay/mount and 2L hoses
On the attached picture, the green circle is the front
Zetec engine mount and the yellow circle is the bracket
where the rear top engine mount bolts to.
Aside from these 2 the only other mounts on the Zetec are
under the gearbox.
I’d guess you may be missing the front mount and somebody
has added the tie bar at the rear to try and compensate.
Jim
*From:* Julian Coleman
*Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 2:30 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 top engine
stay/mount and 2L hoses
Hi
If you could send me photos and dimensions I may very well
be interested. The engine in mine is a 2L silver top
zetec. The mounting is from the inlet side roughly in the
middle of the car (L/R) and it runs from the mount on the
engine back to the stiffener bar which runs between the
tops of the suspension turrets. I do plan to go out and
measure it up later today but from memory it is about 150
- 200mm long with short tubes at each end, the tubes being
about 40-50mm long and about 30 ish mm diameter.
Take that with a pinch of salt! But if it's anything
similar it's worth seeing if it's a match. It would make
sense if it was an original part, but who knows.
I've got enough on my hands, never mind nowhere to put it,
to be able to consider taking on a second car or indeed
keeping a donor. But I wish you well either sorting it or
passing it on. They are fun for sure.
Regards
Julian Coleman
City Audio Services
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Sent:
Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:44:58 +0100
Subject:
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 top engine stay/mount and
2L hoses
There's someone with a Wanted Ad on Ebay after an H4
at the moment - It looks like your may be too much
work for him, but maybe a sale possibility?
Martin
----- Original Message -----
*From:* 'The Blue Pig' via Quantum Owners Group
*To:* Quantum Owners Group
*Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2019 11:21 AM
*Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 top engine
stay/mount and 2L hoses
Hi, Julian,
Which engine do you have and on which side is the
mounting in question?
I have an H4i with the 1.6 Zetec engine, a unit
that had been installed, before I bought the car,
to replace an earlier 1.6 engine in order to
offer power steering. Unfortunately, the engine
was put in by goblins using hammers; it was a
tight fit and, I discovered on taking a sharp
left-hand bend, lacked an engine mount on the near
side connecting the engine to the chassis,
resulting in a very alarming noise as an exposed
pulley came into contact with the lower chassis
member and tried to chew its way through it.
I obtained the correct engine mounting in good
condition from a scrapped MkIII Fiesta but never
got around to fitting it before garaging the car
with a view to sorting out a number of small
problems pre-MoT test. That was three years ago!
Consequently, I'm now the owner of a pre-barn-find
blue Quantum H4i, a treasure trove of spare parts
such as full light sets (time two, since an
earlier MkIII was stripped to feed it and that had
all lights intact as well), new and unfitted front
wishbones, new front and rear shocks (rear fitted,
never used, front in box) . . . A real boys'
Christmas morning of delights!
If the engine mount might be of interest, let me
know. If the rest of the car has appeal, I might
be open to offers (since I'd really not like it to
go for cannibalisation to feed a Fiesta MkIII).
Cheers!
On Sunday, 21 July 2019 08:43:11 UTC+1, julian wrote:
Hi
The H4 has a stabilising bar from the chassis
frame to the top of the engine. It has just
given up. I thought I'd just check to see if
there was a chance replacements might be
available before having this remade
The bushes are showing their age but not yet
scrap. So I'd be interested in replacing the
whole lot if that is possible.
A vain hope I suspect, but worth a shot.
Thanks
Incidentally the hoses in my H4 were pretty
poor and some bodged. A full correct correct
set was no longer available, one of the most
complex shapes being essentially custom. I had
that one properly sorted so the moulds now
exist for it which makes it possible to source
a complete set if anyone is interested.
Julian Coleman
City Audio Services
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