Hi Steve,
            On https://who.is      quantumowners.club has the NS results 
shown below. I have never seen a 2nd option like this and not a mail 
prefix. Normally I thought it was a 2nd choice NS with a similar name and 
(+1). It may be worth a check?









quantumowners.club      
NS 3599         

slv2.1and1.co.uk
quantumowners.club NS 3599 
mail.h4-turbo.co.uk

On Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:03:18 UTC+1, Steve Kodz wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> As you have pointed out, the web server hosts many different sites, 
> however this is not controlled by the .htaccess file - these are per site 
> for putting restrictions on the files hosted within the website.
>
> The issue is how the web server handles requests for sites that it doesn't 
> know about, and currently has my personal website is listed as the fall 
> back default.  The issue lies somewhere in the configuration for DNS and 
> the web server.
>
> IMHO Norton is being over zealous and supplying incorrect information, but 
> for most users blocking access is probably the correct action. It should 
> rather state that the site trying to be accessed is supplying 
> incorrect/inconsistent security information and to strongly advise not to 
> visit.  If the site was a known dangerous site it would likely appear on a 
> black list somewhere, but I don't believe it does.
>
> I will look into this, but it is a low priority, since the proper URL 
> www.quantumowners.club works and that is the one I publicise.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> On 22/04/2020 14:15, 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
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> Gents
>
> An nslookup shows that DNS resolves quantumowners.club,  
> www.quantumowners.club, h4-turbo.co.uk and www.h4-turbo.co.uk all to the 
> same address (81.174.250.144). Assuming both sites are indeed physically 
> located on that host, the redirect to http://www.h4-turbo.co.uk when 
> asking for quantumowners.club or the way it has been implemented, is what 
> Norton is unhappy with. This would be within an .htaccess file, a script 
> called 
> from or within the site's index file, or within the web server's 
> configuration files. Hope some of that helps...
>
> Best regards
> Bill 
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> On Wednesday, 22 April 2020, 10:49:39 BST, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> 
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> I have to say i think the problem is that you have Norton install on the PC
>  
> Back in the DOS days Norton utils were good but they rapidly went downhill 
> IMO
>  
> Jim
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>  
> *From:* Tony Gould 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:39 AM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website
>  
> Hi Steve, I still get a Norton failure when trying for the website on any 
> browser, with Norton Security active.
>
> [image: website blocked.jpg]
>  
>          Also I did some work a while back with http and https redirects 
> and it was with using a modified .htaaccess file and rewrite rules, I can't 
> find the exact file at the moment, but probably some useful info here 
> https://htaccessbook.com/htaccess-redirect-https-www/   Originally I was 
> placing the redirect in the wrong .htaaccess file. My host support, helped 
> me out in the end. I can hunt further if you would like? 
> Cheers
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 6:15:40 PM UTC+1, Steve Kodz wrote: 
>
> Ian,
>
> It is broken, but working.  As multiple web hosts are served from a single 
> server there is some configuration trickery I need to master (probably 
> including DNS settings) so the non www. will work like the primary 
> address.  The couple of times I've looked into it have me stumped so far!
>
> I have unfortunately had to allow TLSv1.2 as I found an important 
> application that I use via that web server doesn't fully support v1.3, 
> therefore anyone having issues may be OK now.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
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> h4-turbo.co.uk 
> quantumowners.club 
>
> On 16/04/2020 18:39, Ian Harrison wrote:
>
> Steve, there is a difference in behaviour between accessing via 
> www.quantumowners.co.uk and quantum owners.co.uk
>  
> Fully qualified seems good all the way through. Without the www. prefix, 
> it uses the www.h4-turbo.co.uk cert who’s also good but is flagged as 
> having an intermediate cert error. Also seems to flag as an issue because 
> the accessed name is different to the resolved server name. 
>  
> Just an observation and may be as designed. 
>  
> HTH
> Ian
>  
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 18:22, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
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> Jan,
>  
> You need to update your browser as it is out of date. The TLS setting on 
> the website are using the most recent release, v1.3.
>  
> Regards,
> Steve
>  
>
> On 16 April 2020 18:07:43 "'janhaines30' via Quantum Owners Group" 
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> com> wrote:
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> Steve I cannot get onto the site. Saying cannot securely connect to this 
> page unsafe tls security settings
>  
> Jan
>  
>  
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  
>  
> -------- Original message --------
> From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <quantu...@googlegroups. com> 
> Date: 15/04/2020 15:11 (GMT+00:00) 
> To: [email protected] 
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website 
>  
> Is that a recent version? I would expect old versions to flag the domain 
> as 
> the .club TLD wouldn't be expected, but these have been valid for a number 
> of years now, so are OK to use
>
> SSL labs give the site an A rating, so more likely an issue locally.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
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> On 15 April 2020 13:10:20 "chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group" 
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> > Hi Steve.
> >
> > Norton blocked the link saying it's a known dangerous site....
> >
> > Chris G
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:36 AM
> > To: QOC Google Group
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] QOC Website
> >
> > I hope everyone is staying safe and well during these difficult times.
> >
> > As I am currently isolating too far away from my cars I have extra time 
> on
> > my hands at weekends. Therefore I took the opportunity over the bank
> > holiday to upgrade the operating system that the club website is hosted
> > from. This allowed me to upgrade the website security to support the 
> latest
> > encryption algorithms.
> >
> > This should not cause any issues if you keep your systems updated, but
> > please take a look at https://www.quantumowners.club and let me know if 
> you
> > have any issues accessing it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve
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