@Martin Oh yes LOL misunderstood you there!. I am sure you are right in that somewhere out there is the right replacement seal Problem is finding which donor(s) it comes from because no parts listings I have found specify the seal dimensions you required to determine suitability.
Anyway my reproduction seal is now on its way so to me so hopefully problem will be solved :-) John On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 16:11:04 UTC+1 susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote: > I was thinking of tank seal/grommet, not fuel tank 😊 > > Martin > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *list...@liberator-systems.co.uk > *Sent: *15 September 2022 15:16 > *To: *Quantum Owners Group > *Subject: *Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal > > > > @Jim > > Thanks - I did search the various Fords parts catalogs before I got the > seals to try. As you say only 2 different types are ever listed (which are > the ones I got). > > But the later seal is definitely not correct fit in my tank aperture. I > believe the original donor for my car was pre 86 XR2 - that fits with my > metal filler pipe (not sleeved). > > It is is possible I guess that tank is an aftermarket item and was > supplied with seal to fit non standard aperture. Tank is heavily painted > now so any codes etc. are obscured - a camera inside might find something > if it was stamped on _ might try later. > > > > @Martin > > I think it unlikely to find any other suitable donor tanks given the tight > fit of Fiesta tank. Probably easier to get an alloy tank custom made. > > > > John > > > > > > On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 14:25:04 UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote: > > Looking on the Ford parts catalogue. > > The 32 litre side sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 1.10.1981, to > 31.08.1983 and non Mk1 and Mk2 Fiestas until 1986 > The Finis code for this seal is 1492183 > > The 40 litre top sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 31.08.1983 and all > Mk2 > XR2, and non XR2 Mk2 Fiestas after 1986 , the seal for this tank is Finis > code 1549720 > > These are the only 2 seals listed. > > > It looks like there were at least 3 different filler pipes, a metal one > for > the 34L tank, a metal one for the 40L tank on pre 1986 cars and the > plastic > one for the 40L tank on all the later cars. > > You can see all the details on a online version of the Ford > > > https://ford.catalogs-parts.com/#{client:1;page:part;lang:en;category:car;catalog:4;param:no;group:0;groupsubgroup:1518;subgroup:15140;subsubgroup:65647}#13 > > > You might need to join those lines together. > > Jim > > > > From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:02 PM > To: Quantum Owners Group > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal > > Several folks have stated MK1 & MK2 filler neck seals are the same but > from > what I have found this is not always the case. > One complete tank & filler pipe I have is an earlier side mounted sender > type - the seal on that one takes Ford mm metal filler pipe. > The other tank I have in saloon is a later top mounted sender type - the > seal on that one also takes a 50mm filler pipe. > However the aperture diameter on these tanks where filler seal fits is > completely different - the later tank is much bigger. > So far I have found and tried 2 different Fiesta seals listed by > suppliers. > The first one supplied would be the correct one for the early type tank. > The second one supplied is bigger OD but is not correct for my later tank > (it takes a pipe approx 55mm diameter but fits in a smaller diameter tank > aperture than aperture in my tank) . I think this type is for tanks using > later plastic filler pipe > So there are at least 2 types of standard Fiesta tank seal and so far I > have > not managed to find a seal which fits my later tank aperture - this > implies > my later tank is either non standard or there was at least one other type > of > seal used at some point in production. > My old seal is rock hard but otherwise decent condition so I hope to get a > reproduction made using it as template. If that fails it looks like I > would > need to change tank and modify filler to a setup for which seals are > available ;-( > John > . > > > > > > On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 10:32:25 UTC+1 Chris G wrote: > > When I changed mine I discovered the seals for MK1 and MK2 are the same > part > but with different part numbers. > My filler neck was made wider with a short length of metal tube where it > goes into the tank. Then the filler neck went inside with a short section > of > flexible hose attached. > > Chris G > > From: list...@liberator-systems.co.uk > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:40 PM > To: Quantum Owners Group > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal > > On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters) > on my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age. > But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is > the metal type 50mm diameter. 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