John, May I ask where a custom seal can be sourced – that’s useful info for many a kit or classic builder! Martin
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: [email protected] Sent: 15 September 2022 20:08 To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal @Martin Oh yes LOL misunderstood you there!. I am sure you are right in that somewhere out there is the right replacement seal Problem is finding which donor(s) it comes from because no parts listings I have found specify the seal dimensions you required to determine suitability. Anyway my reproduction seal is now on its way so to me so hopefully problem will be solved :-) John On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 16:11:04 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: I was thinking of tank seal/grommet, not fuel tank 😊 Martin Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: [email protected] Sent: 15 September 2022 15:16 To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal @Jim Thanks - I did search the various Fords parts catalogs before I got the seals to try. As you say only 2 different types are ever listed (which are the ones I got). But the later seal is definitely not correct fit in my tank aperture. I believe the original donor for my car was pre 86 XR2 - that fits with my metal filler pipe (not sleeved). It is is possible I guess that tank is an aftermarket item and was supplied with seal to fit non standard aperture. Tank is heavily painted now so any codes etc. are obscured - a camera inside might find something if it was stamped on _ might try later. @Martin I think it unlikely to find any other suitable donor tanks given the tight fit of Fiesta tank. Probably easier to get an alloy tank custom made. John On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 14:25:04 UTC+1 Jim Hearne wrote: Looking on the Ford parts catalogue. The 32 litre side sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 1.10.1981, to 31.08.1983 and non Mk1 and Mk2 Fiestas until 1986 The Finis code for this seal is 1492183 The 40 litre top sender tank was used on Mk1 XR2 from 31.08.1983 and all Mk2 XR2, and non XR2 Mk2 Fiestas after 1986 , the seal for this tank is Finis code 1549720 These are the only 2 seals listed. It looks like there were at least 3 different filler pipes, a metal one for the 34L tank, a metal one for the 40L tank on pre 1986 cars and the plastic one for the 40L tank on all the later cars. You can see all the details on a online version of the Ford https://ford.catalogs-parts.com/#{client:1;page:part;lang:en;category:car;catalog:4;param:no;group:0;groupsubgroup:1518;subgroup:15140;subsubgroup:65647}#13 You might need to join those lines together. Jim From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:02 PM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal Several folks have stated MK1 & MK2 filler neck seals are the same but from what I have found this is not always the case. One complete tank & filler pipe I have is an earlier side mounted sender type - the seal on that one takes Ford mm metal filler pipe. The other tank I have in saloon is a later top mounted sender type - the seal on that one also takes a 50mm filler pipe. However the aperture diameter on these tanks where filler seal fits is completely different - the later tank is much bigger. So far I have found and tried 2 different Fiesta seals listed by suppliers. The first one supplied would be the correct one for the early type tank. The second one supplied is bigger OD but is not correct for my later tank (it takes a pipe approx 55mm diameter but fits in a smaller diameter tank aperture than aperture in my tank) . I think this type is for tanks using later plastic filler pipe So there are at least 2 types of standard Fiesta tank seal and so far I have not managed to find a seal which fits my later tank aperture - this implies my later tank is either non standard or there was at least one other type of seal used at some point in production. My old seal is rock hard but otherwise decent condition so I hope to get a reproduction made using it as template. If that fails it looks like I would need to change tank and modify filler to a setup for which seals are available ;-( John . On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 10:32:25 UTC+1 Chris G wrote: When I changed mine I discovered the seals for MK1 and MK2 are the same part but with different part numbers. My filler neck was made wider with a short length of metal tube where it goes into the tank. Then the filler neck went inside with a short section of flexible hose attached. Chris G From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 8:40 PM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank grommet/seal On my saloon I need to replace the grommet/seal (where filler pipe enters) on my MK2 tank (40l top sender type) as it has gone really hard with age. But I am struggling to find a correct replacement seal. My filler pipe is the metal type 50mm diameter. The aperture in the tank where seal fits is approx 61mm inside diameter. I have found seals to fit 50mm pipe but they are much smaller tank fitting diameter - these match the seal on an old earlier type tank (side sender) II have in garage. So does anyone happen to know if the seal I need is a Fiesta part or was it sourced from another car? John -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. 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