On Apr 30, 2010, at 01:35:01, Oliver Busch wrote: > Hi George, > > this is getting a bit off-topic but as a pro I couldn't resist :) > The problem that was described happened only with the combination of two "1"s. > If you look at the kerning pairs there is clearly a difference between > regular Helvetica and Helvetica Neue. > Where the original Helvetica has a specific kerning pair for "1/1" and > Helvetica Neue does not. > Please see the two attached screen shots. > So obviously the letter spacing of Helvetica Neue has been optimized in such > a way that the kerning pair for "1/1" was no longer needed. > > In the end, the behaviour with the dancing "1/1" combination in "old" > Helvetica is in fact correct.
Look at that. I'm not sure I fully understand, but it sounds like the font is designed to explicitly change the spacing when there are two 1s next to each other (I don't really know what a "kerning pair" is, but I can hazard a guess)? What tool did you use to examine that? Is there a way to override the kerning pairs in a given circumstance, and to do so from within a QC composition? TIA, Rick > > Best, Oli > > <Helvetica-kerning.png> > > > <Helvetica-Neue-kerning.png> > > > On 30.04.2010, at 03:03, George Toledo wrote: > >> I'm interested in this, and I don't take the note about increased spacing in >> the number with Neue to mean the same thing as what we are talking about. >> >> As Rick indicates, in any other layout program (or in the analog world of >> actually setting type) I've never encountered this kind of inconsistency of >> spacing with Helvetica. It has actually always been a go-to for maintaining >> consistency, and nice flow. >> >> I believe there are aberrations with Neue in QC that have led me to believe >> that it's better, but in fact, I tend to think that it also has problems >> that are less immediately noticeable, so I would really pay close attention >> if I was going to use that in anything. I will try to isolate the problems >> I've seen with that and report back; I never took the time to report them, >> as I had to fix these issues under quick turnaround scenarios, and >> ultimately threw my hands up and used Lucida, despite the fact that the >> lettering isn't as attractive and uniform. >> >> Best, >> George Toledo > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/rmann%40latencyzero.com > > This email sent to [email protected] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
