Bet the Facebook design team did its best to push this with Apple. We should have supported Relative Waves(Googles) Form as it had/has an API. http://relativewave.com/form/ <http://relativewave.com/form/> for an example see my personal additions http://justaddmusicmedia.com/work/form/ <http://justaddmusicmedia.com/work/form/>
However Form conceded to Facebook Origami Studio which I now urge you all to support http://origami.design <http://origami.design/> God I miss you QC, that was 12 years of good fun. Jonathan Hammond (aka itsthejayj ) www.justaddmusicmedia.com <http://www.justaddmusicmedia.com/> > On 10 Apr 2017, at 20:00, quartzcomposer-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: > > Send Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list submissions to > quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/quartzcomposer-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > quartzcomposer-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > quartzcomposer-dev-ow...@lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Quartzcomposer-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Open source QC (Paul Rankin) > 2. Re: Open source QC (Alastair Leith) > 3. Re: Open source QC (Paul Rankin) > 4. Re: Open source QC (Imimot Kft.) > 5. Re: Open source QC (Paul Rankin) > 6. Re: Open source QC (Alastair Leith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:36:09 +1000 > From: Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> > To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > Subject: Open source QC > Message-ID: > <1491795369.1084699.939530352.55457...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Are there any plans to open source QC? > > I'd hate to see it abandoned, and if Apple's concentrations are elsewhere, it > would be wonderful to see the language added to Apple's collection of open > source projects. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:39:32 +0800 > From: Alastair Leith <qc.student...@gmail.com> > To: Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com>, > "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com list" > <Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Open source QC > Message-ID: <247d59f6-4c7a-475d-9fa1-49ec28133...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > great idea! > > Unfortunately Facebook already left the party, so there goes a few thousand > interested users who might have supported the project as OSS. > > Has been really bad how Apple has treated QC developers. Mushrooms get fed at > least. > > Best > Alastair > > Alastair I Leith > Useful Design > >> On 10 Apr 2017, at 11:36 am, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >> >> Are there any plans to open source QC? >> >> I'd hate to see it abandoned, and if Apple's concentrations are elsewhere, >> it would be wonderful to see the language added to Apple's collection of >> open source projects. >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/qc.student.au%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to qc.student...@gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20170410/992927ab/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:05:26 +1000 > From: Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> > To: Alastair Leith <qc.student...@gmail.com> > Cc: "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com list" > <Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Open source QC > Message-ID: > <1491797126.1975488.939541160.06f09...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I was impressed that QC was rewritten in 64 bit with AVFoundation support. If > it was to be abandoned I would have expected that to be when. It's incredibly > powerful... I use a video app built in QC (CoGe) that can play 8 simultaneous > HD video streams while keeping 30+ FPS. I don't know other apps that can > achieve that, and I'd put it all down to AVF. > > But then there are minor elements without retina support, and the copyright > says 2005 – 2014, so 🤷♂️ > > As far as I know, there is no Patcher-like language for graphics that is open > source, since Pure Data Gem (Graphics Environment for Multimedia) is > currently broken, and the other commercial languages are closed. > > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, at 01:39 PM, Alastair Leith wrote: >> great idea! >> >> Unfortunately Facebook already left the party, so there goes a few thousand >> interested users who might have supported the project as OSS. >> >> Has been really bad how Apple has treated QC developers. Mushrooms get fed >> at least. >> >> Best >> Alastair >> >> Alastair I Leith >> Useful Design >> >>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 11:36 am, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >>> >>> Are there any plans to open source QC? >>> >>> I'd hate to see it abandoned, and if Apple's concentrations are elsewhere, >>> it would be wonderful to see the language added to Apple's collection of >>> open source projects. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/qc.student.au%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to qc.student...@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 06:23:59 +0200 > From: "Imimot Kft." <i...@imimot.com> > To: Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> > Cc: "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com list" > <Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Open source QC > Message-ID: <cf3d851f-ee98-4a35-8f61-aec4f1dd8...@imimot.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I don’t think QC was rewritten with AVFoundation support. > > CoGe was not built in QC. Although it used a lot of QC stuff under the hood > like 5 years ago, nowadays most of those parts are removed. Also CoGe does > not use AVFoundation. > > Vuo is open-source. > >> On 2017. Apr 10., at 6:05, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >> >> I was impressed that QC was rewritten in 64 bit with AVFoundation support. >> If it was to be abandoned I would have expected that to be when. It's >> incredibly powerful... I use a video app built in QC (CoGe) that can play 8 >> simultaneous HD video streams while keeping 30+ FPS. I don't know other apps >> that can achieve that, and I'd put it all down to AVF. >> >> But then there are minor elements without retina support, and the copyright >> says 2005 – 2014, so 🤷♂️ >> >> As far as I know, there is no Patcher-like language for graphics that is >> open source, since Pure Data Gem (Graphics Environment for Multimedia) is >> currently broken, and the other commercial languages are closed. >> >> >> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, at 01:39 PM, Alastair Leith wrote: >>> great idea! >>> >>> Unfortunately Facebook already left the party, so there goes a few thousand >>> interested users who might have supported the project as OSS. >>> >>> Has been really bad how Apple has treated QC developers. Mushrooms get fed >>> at least. >>> >>> Best >>> Alastair >>> >>> Alastair I Leith >>> Useful Design >>> >>>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 11:36 am, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are there any plans to open source QC? >>>> >>>> I'd hate to see it abandoned, and if Apple's concentrations are elsewhere, >>>> it would be wonderful to see the language added to Apple's collection of >>>> open source projects. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/qc.student.au%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to qc.student...@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/info%40imimot.com >> >> This email sent to i...@imimot.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:49:49 +1000 > From: Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> > To: "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com list" > <Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Open source QC > Message-ID: > <1491799789.1981526.939571936.4a0ef...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ah, clearly people should not listen to me...! > > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, at 02:23 PM, Imimot Kft. wrote: >> I don’t think QC was rewritten with AVFoundation support. >> >> CoGe was not built in QC. Although it used a lot of QC stuff under the >> hood like 5 years ago, nowadays most of those parts are removed. Also >> CoGe does not use AVFoundation. >> >> Vuo is open-source. >> >>> On 2017. Apr 10., at 6:05, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >>> >>> I was impressed that QC was rewritten in 64 bit with AVFoundation support. >>> If it was to be abandoned I would have expected that to be when. It's >>> incredibly powerful... I use a video app built in QC (CoGe) that can play 8 >>> simultaneous HD video streams while keeping 30+ FPS. I don't know other >>> apps that can achieve that, and I'd put it all down to AVF. >>> >>> But then there are minor elements without retina support, and the copyright >>> says 2005 – 2014, so 🤷♂️ >>> >>> As far as I know, there is no Patcher-like language for graphics that is >>> open source, since Pure Data Gem (Graphics Environment for Multimedia) is >>> currently broken, and the other commercial languages are closed. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, at 01:39 PM, Alastair Leith wrote: >>>> great idea! >>>> >>>> Unfortunately Facebook already left the party, so there goes a few >>>> thousand interested users who might have supported the project as OSS. >>>> >>>> Has been really bad how Apple has treated QC developers. Mushrooms get fed >>>> at least. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Alastair >>>> >>>> Alastair I Leith >>>> Useful Design >>>> >>>>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 11:36 am, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are there any plans to open source QC? >>>>> >>>>> I'd hate to see it abandoned, and if Apple's concentrations are >>>>> elsewhere, it would be wonderful to see the language added to Apple's >>>>> collection of open source projects. >>>>> _________________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/qc.student.au%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to qc.student...@gmail.com >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/info%40imimot.com >>> >>> This email sent to i...@imimot.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:19:43 +0800 > From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> > To: "Imimot Kft." <i...@imimot.com> > Cc: Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com>, > "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com list" > <Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Open source QC > Message-ID: <c9c866a3-243b-448b-8198-9d90232ab...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > http://vuo.org/source <http://vuo.org/source> :: > > The open source version of Vuo is available on GitHub > <https://github.com/vuo/vuo>. It includes the Vuo Compiler and core nodes > (but not Vuo Editor or Pro nodes), and it lags behind the current version by > one year. Follow the instructions in README.md > <https://github.com/vuo/vuo/blob/master/README.md> to build it (it'll take an > hour or two). More info: > > Why are the Vuo Compiler and core nodes open source? > <http://vuo.org/why-source> > Why are the Vuo Editor and premium nodes proprietary? > <http://vuo.org/proprietary> > Best > Alastair > > Alastair I Leith > > Useful Design > 0432 889 831 > 158 Canning Hwy > East Fremantle > WA 6158 Aust > >> On 10 Apr 2017, at 12:23 pm, Imimot Kft. <i...@imimot.com> wrote: >> >> I don’t think QC was rewritten with AVFoundation support. >> >> CoGe was not built in QC. Although it used a lot of QC stuff under the hood >> like 5 years ago, nowadays most of those parts are removed. Also CoGe does >> not use AVFoundation. >> >> Vuo is open-source. >> >>> On 2017. Apr 10., at 6:05, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >>> >>> I was impressed that QC was rewritten in 64 bit with AVFoundation support. >>> If it was to be abandoned I would have expected that to be when. It's >>> incredibly powerful... I use a video app built in QC (CoGe) that can play 8 >>> simultaneous HD video streams while keeping 30+ FPS. I don't know other >>> apps that can achieve that, and I'd put it all down to AVF. >>> >>> But then there are minor elements without retina support, and the copyright >>> says 2005 – 2014, so 🤷♂️ >>> >>> As far as I know, there is no Patcher-like language for graphics that is >>> open source, since Pure Data Gem (Graphics Environment for Multimedia) is >>> currently broken, and the other commercial languages are closed. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017, at 01:39 PM, Alastair Leith wrote: >>>> great idea! >>>> >>>> Unfortunately Facebook already left the party, so there goes a few >>>> thousand interested users who might have supported the project as OSS. >>>> >>>> Has been really bad how Apple has treated QC developers. Mushrooms get fed >>>> at least. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Alastair >>>> >>>> Alastair I Leith >>>> Useful Design >>>> >>>>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 11:36 am, Paul Rankin <he...@paulwrankin.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are there any plans to open source QC? >>>>> >>>>> I'd hate to see it abandoned, and if Apple's concentrations are >>>>> elsewhere, it would be wonderful to see the language added to Apple's >>>>> collection of open source projects. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/qc.student.au%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to qc.student...@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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