-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-03-23 10:06, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 03/21/2017 03:40 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> Sorry to piggyback on the thread, but I've been meaning to ask this. >> Have there been any notable usecases of end users using salt to >> coordinate Qubes VM lifecycles with salt, and orchestra/publish them >> into services? I imagine something like Joanna/Marek's >> <https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-app-linux-pdf-converter>qubes-app-linux-pdf-converter >> >> <https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-app-linux-pdf-converter> >> which coordinates multiple VMs to produce a stronger security guarantee >> than a single VM could produce. > > I haven't seen any expressed on the lists. > > >> I am unfamiliar with the structure of salt formulas and pillars, or >> whether the end goal of a salt configuration can be to publish some >> service endpoint (though I'd imagine the answer is yes), nor am I >> certain the exact use salt has seen in qubes so far (it has been my >> impression that salt helps compose qubes VMs in a way not fully >> encouraged for end user, but looking at the documentation that might >> have simply been my impression given my level of understanding at the >> time - it certainly seemed intimidating.) What I'm more familiar with is >> Docker, where most configuration management is done via Docker file, and >> coordination is done through Docker-Compose declarations. > > Let me be the first to admit that salt appears difficult to understand > at first. Their documentation drives me up the wall. It strikes me as > the kind of project that gained followers early when it was still easy > to grasp, then built up an obscurantist mindset. > > Ansible is much easier to understand, IMHO. > > >> Maybe I can show you guys such a file and see if Salt can do similar >> tasks? >> >> This >> <https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn/blob/master/docker-compose.yml> >> > ... > >> Anyways, this is all kind of all over the place, and might need to be >> posed elsewhere, but I'm just wondering whether salt as deployed on >> qubes can covers these kinds of usecases in a fairly light weight way. > > Salt probably does cover them. But I suspect Qubists have looked at the > salt concepts and syntax and decided its not yet worth the effort. >
Yes, we need better documentation to make Salt accessible: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1983 - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJY1HmqAAoJENtN07w5UDAw3yUQAKJ/gSSrwhdOWifuSmeiu8vh PxIXwtoc3tGXJIqUnNkcE9avTmCpzYhHp86WnXaK3vk1dfkr8F/RdSW0CGYkqHl2 2l83sY8Ol3qC1OqDhlegH9UDQCYh5UL7FzEWnr8OIXYrmlj67d1jpWJK2W8V7Cgd U1COWlkWr+LnWJEyK1FBjlj9cMqPeaODcpI6DpjB6ZLizffRVywsYlhcQCDHSTS3 JK5wke9jX/6Em1RMdkR0WA6vL50qTLDPxprjW8KD4IGSWWijryvAVIQGmFn2J9WY 34ej9RJst1jmX0a1Z2fqFtRS8yrcrJJgxaJB7l1i1ucoCcpvdrL1qUwyA/6jjs6M uDaCDthm/jfFl1VK4R+rYqwGB+/kr9l68dzO/Iauk4ZJKEkIKojmKAIRP975EpGT 3xJ0pW8f91pBsBc0aDOEmQAQSEYbGKpWShgtMGmhbvDRfGISPmAOUpI5p3WZd8/E qW4F0GDkOKldkG6DZYl295skGZNaH7UFUy4+rELmgtleRKksFNL62ShDOb96wy+8 3Hci2paTXJR/pc5ha/pl3+nI7CeSwMNCHZqQ5zxrPCbnFS+PYrQsImoUALYaajEA VSJViLQ3KZwyDzj1oOg9xe1aNXzIb9kjRTzesiPSaqblA5nAi4X1o69vAFVk2Bd8 C1Wyh5Ky1Gn3ytcOYT4q =mdc5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/f9daada3-fed5-1ecd-4f37-fcef18f8299c%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
