On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 09:57:01 +0000 'skiinglasso2' via qubes-devel wrote:

> You didn't know yourself but at the same time you were hoping I would 
> understand from your explanation?

My "I don't know" is regarding the necessity for what you are requesting. 
Marek's explanation confirms that there isn't any. In case you still don't 
understand, the sequence is:

qubes-iptables.service
network-pre.target

qubes-firewall.service
qubes-network.service <-- No network traffic forwarding before this
network.target
network-online.target <-- Network connectivity has been established

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