On Thursday, 14 July 2016 23:46:56 UTC+10, Adam  wrote:
> I understand the global view of networking in QubesOS, I have a net VM, a 
> firewall VM, a proxy VM and a standard app VM all working nicely and my app 
> VM can surf the web securely.

I have Windows AppVMs working happily doing what I said to do, to work around 
the issue with missing communication between them.

> I never said dom0 and win7 communicated via network, had had assumed, maybe 
> incorrectly, that dom0 via Qubes db or something to each VM what it's IP 
> address is and scripts inside the VM set the ip correctly.

It attaches it viathe XEn backing, using a specific command that attaches it.

> I know my problem is Qubes Network Setup service in side my windows HVM 
> failing to start, and it won't start when I manually try to start it from the 
> services app.

There are issues with Qubes-Windows-Tools, and they need to COMPLETELY rewrite 
them. There have been bugs in it since they first brought them into Qubes, and 
the issues still remain unresolved. I doubt that the issues will ever be fixed.

> I don't want to just assign the Nic an IP as that's not what's suppose to 
> happen, I want to figure out what's going on, so I can tell others what went 
> wrong, why it went wrong and how to fix it!

I've looked into it since Qubes 2.0 RC1, and there has been no resolution yet.
So if you assign the IPs that it is meant to have, then you can at least use 
the AppVM for now.

> Has anyone had a problem with "Qubes Network Setup" service failing to start? 
> (please note this is a Windows application(service)

My service starts fine, but 99% of the time, it doesn't work.
I still have not found anything in the Qubes Logs OR the Windows Logs to 
identify the issue.

In conclusion, we have to wait for the issues in the Windows Tools to be 
resolved. There are many that will cause issues and just happen with no reason 
except for bad coding/vision at some point that is causing them to break.

I have all the code, but I don't know C.
I'm thinking of taking the code and rewriting the tools completely just to get 
rid of the bugs that many many many many people complain about that have not 
been resolved since the tools came out in Qubes.

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