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On 2016-07-22 08:15, TheFactory wrote:
> Another good use for this feature is that you can pre-program in some 
> landmines to destroy the drive and overcome brute force. Since the LUKS 
> password prompt on my install of 3.2 has little to no delay between 
> password attempts one could use a mid range gpu to try millions of 
> passwords. The drive itself can be copied dozens of times to increase the 
> chances of getting the password.
> 

You can configure the iteration time manually by following the instructions
here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/encryption-config/

Remember that the actual number of iterations depends on the speed of your
hardware. The cryptsetup default is one second (1000 milliseconds).

> However if
> 
> If you had a limit of 10 or 20 tries before drive wipe.
> 
> And had a dozen or more fake passwords that would induce drive wipe.
> 
> And had some sort of delay in each password attempt built in.(veracrypt 
> takes forever to process your password input for instance)
> 
> Using tpm ontop of this would also at least frustrate their attempts at 
> mirroring the drive.
> 
> You could be reasonably certian that even powerful attempts at getting the 
> drive open will be hopeless. Though, you may get yourself in some physical 
> trouble.
> 
> I have wanted features like the above ones for some time.
> 

As Andrew pointed out, offline brute forcing doesn't work this way. Attackers
wouldn't attempt to brute force your encrypted drive using your hardware and
software. They would just take a copy the ciphertext and attempt to decrypt it
with their own software on their own (much more powerful) hardware. (However,
the use of a TPM would make a difference here, for the reason Andrew points
out.)

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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