On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 11:07:43 PM UTC-5, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-5, David Renz wrote:
> > Hello everyone, 
> > 
> > currently I don't have QubesOS installed unfortunately, so I can't check 
> > this by myself, and it might take some time until I'll be able to install 
> > it, therefore I'm asking about this on the list:
> > 
> > I think that AIDE is the most sophisticated tool for checking file system 
> > integrity (and I believe that this approach might be one of the best in 
> > order to see whether a system got compromised or not), but obviously it 
> > could render this approach useless, if one would first habe to go online 
> > after having installed QubesOS and then AIDE from a Repo, which might be 
> > compromised. Therefore my question: Is AIDE included in the Fedora 
> > installation iso, so that those security issues couls be circumvented?
> > 
> > By the way, doing so should not only be done before going online for the 
> > first time, but already before the system restarts after its installation 
> > (because otherwise ACPI or other firmware code might compromise the system 
> > during the first boot process).
> > 
> > If it's not included in the installation iso, then I'd strongly suggest 
> > that it should be added. (The second best solution would be to download it 
> > and pray that this download is not compromised (probably I don't need to 
> > mention that there are various ways to compromise this download without 
> > someone being able to notice that), bur actually that doesn't even sound 
> > like a 'second best', but a rather careless approach.)
> > 
> > Maybe manually hashing files by writing a script could be another approach 
> > (I'd rather do that than trust a security relevant tool I downloaded from 
> > somewhere), though AIDE is really great in its functionality and it would 
> > be really nice if doing so would be possible.
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards and all the best 
> > 
> > David
> 
> You just install the package like any other linux.
> 
> I still like tripwire the best,  even though the opensource version is so 
> outdated.   Some more modern solutions are OSSEC or Samhain,  but they are 
> more like windows type all in one solutions and might be considered bloated.

When using these type of programs on qubes though I found it too noisy and 
pointless.  Just for dom0 might not be a bad idea.  Just routinely wipe your 
other vms at the slightest anomaly haha.  its so easy in qubes.

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