On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 7:35:54 PM UTC-4, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2017-03-17 14:10, Unman wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:49:04AM -0700, cooloutac wrote:
> >> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 1:48:27 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> >>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 1:17:10 PM UTC-4, Unman wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 04:38:17PM +0000, faber wrote:
> >>>>> I have a Debian-9 StandaloneVM that I recently am unable to start it.
> >>>>> The only thing I've done, before getting stuck there, was removing
> >>>>> libreoffice (all packages), jack, mutt and icedove, nothing special.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> logs from /var/log/xen/console/guest-dev.log:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://share.riseup.net/#jt9PHXk7pbpDkz0ZKmwy7g
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you need anything else, please let me know!
> >>>>
> >>>> If you start it using qvm-start what error do you see?
> >>>> Once you have started it can you attah to the console from dom0 using
> >>>> (as root) xl console <name> ?
> >>>
> >>> ya and if you can do that check apt log.  I kill my debian system all the 
> >>> time removing or installing packages.  I blindly click yes and don't 
> >>> realize its asking me if it can kill my system by removing desktop haha.
> >>>
> >>> after reading about how when updating a template you could accidentally 
> >>> click yes to a not verified key I had to tell my family to make sure they 
> >>> read for that specific thing especially before hitting y. (this has 
> >>> nothing to do with your issue sorry)
> >>
> >> and when that happens you just keep trying till it gets a valid key.
> >>
> > 
> > I hope this was a joke.
> > I have no sense of humour - do NOT do this.
> > It's a common situation and you will find many answers with a simple
> > search.
> > 
> 
> I'm unclear about the disagreement here. I understood cooloutac as saying:
> 
> Sometimes, apt-get may download a package with an invalid signature.
> In that case, you should not install the invalidly signed package.
> Instead, you should re-download the package (and let apt-get re-check
> the signature), e.g., after a period of time, from a different server,
> or via a different connection, until you get a validly signed package,
> and only then proceed with installing that package.
> 
> If that's what cooloutac meant, then I'm not sure I see the problem
> with that approach. Isn't that what we *should* do in that situation?
> 
> P.S. - Let's keep the discussion civil and productive, please.
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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I'm sorry Andrew.

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