On 05/02/2017 02:27 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> I never even looked a a cryptography section man tyvm!  yes would be very 
> awesome to know which ones to disable. very interesting. and what hardware 
> etc of course,  and we can then just copy our config over when building the 
> next one.  I think that is always the part that kills people but 20-40 mins 
> aint bad.  
>
> I wouldn't mind compiling a kernel myself with good instructions.  I'm just 
> weary because I have tried in debian template and can't get the gui.  It goes 
> green and then to yellow on boot, can connect from terminal to it. I probably 
> didn't do it the Qubes way properly.  I think because of a missing module 
> Marmarek said once so I tried to modprobe it not sure which one or how.  
>
> But ya if some expert can make a guide to compile kernel that would be 
> awesome.
>
> and thats right doh we do it all in a vm on Qubes!

Exactly! All of this research to find a generic, slimmed down kernel
configuration (for dom0 and/or maybe for VMs too) that can run on a
variety of Qubes machines would only need to be done once. Once done, it
could just be reused for every kernel update in that branch, and would
only need to be revisited whenever there's a major kernel update to
figure out which new features to integrate or reject. And ditto for a
personal kernel too that's tailored only to your hardware. That's how I
do it for my machines.

It's worthwhile doing, regardless, if only to save on disk space and
maybe RAM (I still can't believe I cut my personal kernel down to 1/4
the size of the stock kernel). I am interested in the Cryptography
stuff, though, because by default, *all* of the ciphers are enabled, and
I wonder if it's possible if an attacker could somehow downgrade the
encryption cipher in a VM or dom0 used by various operations to make
things easier to exploit, in which case, you could mitigate some of that
at the kernel level by taking out the weaker ciphers or those that Qubes
doesn't explicitly use. I don't know if that's a valid attack vector,
but if I thought of it, maybe someone smarter than me has too, and also
knows how to pull it off.


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