On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 4:54:04 PM UTC-4, Stephan Marwedel wrote:
> On 6/5/17 1:10 AM, cooloutac wrote:
> > On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 3:59:09 PM UTC-4, Stephan Marwedel wrote:
> >> On 6/2/17 7:11 AM, cooloutac wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 2:31:10 PM UTC-4, Stephan Marwedel wrote:
> >>>> I have trouble booting the installer. Using the standard UEFI setup of
> >>>> the T470p does not work at all. Switching to legacy boot settings boots
> >>>> into the GRUB menu. However, when I tried to actually boot into the
> >>>> Qubes installer it immediately performs a reboot. This means that I
> >>>> never get to the point to actually install Qubes on the machine.
> >>>>
> >>>> I tried to boot the vanilla Fedora 23 live system. It boots without any
> >>>> problem using both the standard UEFI setup and legacy boot. What is the
> >>>> difference between Qubes and Fedora 23 that prevents Qubes from being
> >>>> booted on that machine? May it be related to Secure Boot or TPM settings?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 05/20/2017 03:28 AM, cooloutac wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 5:23:58 PM UTC-4, Stephan Marwedel wrote:
> >>>>>> I recently got a new Kaby Lake Thinkpad. It runs fine with Archlinux.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, I wanted to install Qubes on it and installed a second SSD for
> >>>>>> that purpose. Even following the hints from the official Qubes
> >>>>>> documentation I was unable to install Qubes 3.2 from the original
> >>>>>> installer. It seems that this machine is simply too new for Qubes 3.2.
> >>>>>> How can I try it out with newer kernels? May alpha or beta versions of
> >>>>>> upcoming release be worth a try??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any hints appreciated.
> >>>>> what about baremetal fedora23?, if it work with that should be able to 
> >>>>> get it working in qubes maybe you need later kernel version from 
> >>>>> testing repo.
> >>>>>
> >>> secure boot has to be off.
> >> I turned secure boot off and tried various combinations of boot
> >> settings, like UEFI with CSM and pure legacy boot to no avail. Using
> >> legacy boot, the GRUB menu appears. When I select the menu item "Install
> >> Qubes" I see a message in text mode about the kernel being loaded.
> >> Shortly after, I the screen goes blank and the system performs a reboot.
> >> Nop error message is displayed. Something seems to be fundamentally
> >> wrong with either my setup or the combination of Qubes 3.2 with this
> >> particular machine. Does anybody else have similar experience with a
> >> machine of this type?
> > try legacy boot again,  and and test with vt-d off maybe.  only difference 
> > I can think of.  disable secondary gpu and network card too. make sure gpu 
> > has enough memory.  double check bios options maybe usb settings too.
> I tried all the options you have mentioned to no avail. I even tried to 
> installed using the textmode installer of Qubes. While it starts to show 
> the initial Xen boot messages, the screen suddenly goes black and a 
> reboot is performed. This happens so quickly that I cannot see whether 
> an error message indicating the source of the problem is displayed.
> The discrete Nvidia GPU cannot be disabled on this machine as there are 
> no BIOS options for this. The machine has 32 GB of RAM with 512 MB 
> assigned to the internal GPU. Memory it should not be a problem.
> 
> Maybe the combination of discrete and internal GPU is the source of the 
> problem. When booting Fedora 23, the Nvidia GPU is detected and the 
> Nouveau driver is configured. I could not find an option for the Qubes 
> installer to do the same thing. Can Qubes be installed using the Nouveau 
> driver?

ya it uses nouveau automatically.  The qubes installer is basically same thing 
as fedora 23 installer.

Not sure why its not working for you.  so you tried with vt-d off? secureboot 
off?  and tried installing with hdd in ahci mode? I dunno what else to tell 
you.  not sure what else would be diff then fedora 23.

Only time I have gotten reboots like that is incorrect entries in grub.

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