On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 12:26:35 PM UTC-4, PR wrote:
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> Am 21.07.2017 9:39 vorm. schrieb "Noor Christensen" <[email protected]>:
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> The IRC channels are unofficial, and should probably continue to be so
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> since we already have the mailing lists as our official means of
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> communication.
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> Agreed, Mailinglist and  Qubes Docu are perfect to look for answers.
> The only (maybe) missing part would be a quick start guide for beginners, 
> adressing the most relevant tasks (referencing to the documentation).
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> People will continue joining the #qubes channel (or another one) and ask for 
> help, no matter if we are there or not. I think it's a great way to
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> introduce new users to the project and point users with questions or
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> answers to the offical docs and lists for further discussion.
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> If there is an IRC channel, I think it should be clearly mentioned on the 
> website as asking via IRC might be a lower barrier for newbies.
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> - PhR

Qubes should not associate themselves with freenode or irc.   That's just my 
opinion. Nobody with self respect or integrity has taken freenode serious for 
over 10 years.  It should stay unofficial.

 I think google forums are a lot easier to use then installing some irc client 
or connecting to a webchat, where the only people there are criminals or 
spammers who want to exploit you or the network.  No moderator can help, 
freenode can't even protect themselves.  The wolves bully that hen house.  Any 
IRC channel should stay unofficial imo.  Freenode and its communities are the 
sole reason Linux is unpopular.  Its a ghost town full of idle bots for a 
reason. 

Its one of the most dangerous  places to connect to, besides online games, some 
porn sites, and darknet sites like silk road.     I mean come on, it was 
hilarious how it was portrayed on Mr. Robot,  but they were not that far off.

Even though they brought back tor support, which is a catch22 for them,  
(although you would need a special tor setup, standard setups dont' work)  
Recommending people go to freenode is like leading sheeps to slaughter.

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