On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Franz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:13 PM, cooloutac <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 12:26:35 PM UTC-4, PR wrote: >> > Hello >> > >> > >> > >> > Am 21.07.2017 9:39 vorm. schrieb "Noor Christensen" >> > <[email protected]>: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > The IRC channels are unofficial, and should probably continue to be so >> > >> > since we already have the mailing lists as our official means of >> > >> > communication. >> > >> > >> > >> > Agreed, Mailinglist and Qubes Docu are perfect to look for answers. >> > The only (maybe) missing part would be a quick start guide for >> > beginners, adressing the most relevant tasks (referencing to the >> > documentation). >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > People will continue joining the #qubes channel (or another one) and ask >> > for help, no matter if we are there or not. I think it's a great way to >> > >> > introduce new users to the project and point users with questions or >> > >> > answers to the offical docs and lists for further discussion. >> > >> > >> > >> > If there is an IRC channel, I think it should be clearly mentioned on >> > the website as asking via IRC might be a lower barrier for newbies. >> > >> > >> > - PhR >> >> Qubes should not associate themselves with freenode or irc. That's just >> my opinion. Nobody with self respect or integrity has taken freenode serious >> for over 10 years. It should stay unofficial. >> >> I think google forums are a lot easier to use then installing some irc >> client or connecting to a webchat, where the only people there are criminals >> or spammers who want to exploit you or the network. No moderator can help, >> freenode can't even protect themselves. The wolves bully that hen house. >> Any IRC channel should stay unofficial imo. Freenode and its communities >> are the sole reason Linux is unpopular. Its a ghost town full of idle bots >> for a reason. >> >> Its one of the most dangerous places to connect to, besides online games, >> some porn sites, and darknet sites like silk road. I mean come on, it >> was hilarious how it was portrayed on Mr. Robot, but they were not that far >> off. >> >> Even though they brought back tor support, which is a catch22 for them, >> (although you would need a special tor setup, standard setups dont' work) >> Recommending people go to freenode is like leading sheeps to slaughter. >> > > Well it seems that all groups are using Slack now. It is easy to use and > works well. Have a look. > Best > Fran
If you're going to use not-IRC, then there is already a matrix [1] group for Qubes. Matrix is a decentralized "secure" (whatever that really means) alternative to Slack, and it's already picked up some momentum. The matrix group is also bridged with the #qubes_os channels on freenode and OFTC. Personally, I think IRC's status as the de-facto chat protocol for similar communities warrants having a presence there (since people *do* regularly come there with questions), so I'll continue to idle there and am happy to volunteer as a chanop if the Qubes team wants. Regards, Jean-Philippe [1]: https://matrix.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_Bi988_81sZFknJ1QruYbsE0xZu9gRwvUE44id3fbqoGQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
